HARMAN pricing. Is it realistic?

I totally agree

You had to do it, didn't you

Harman released updated pricing details this morning by email along with some roadmap items, the full text was posted on the Starling forum here:

https://forum.starling-framework.org/d/21728-the-future-of-adobe-air/199

The main changes from the previous pricing plan are that the subscription fee is now only for using the tools and isn't required for the duration of an app being available in app stores, the revenue caps for each tier have been adjusted and are now based on overall income so you don't have to determine your "AIR-specific" income, the subscription fees are now billed annually instead of monthly, and the top-tier prices were lowered as well.

Personally I'm happy with all of these changes, and for anyone stressing about diving into this and updating their apps on a tight deadline before August 1st, Google just granted a 12-month extension for existing AIR app updates until they'll need to support 64-bit (though it seems new AIR apps will still need to be 64-bit).

I will gladly pay these prices if it means that they are actively developing and making the platform better.  However... if support to work with Animate goes away ... so do I.

Seems like good news

Come on it's also fun to **** *** each other sometimes, it is important not to take it personally. In front of a glass of wine communication would be much different, but on forums when emotions are involved it's easy to get carried away (personally, I do love AIR, therefore I tend to get emotional on the topic, especially now that I see hope).

Kudos to everybody.

I kindly invite everybody to keep the discussion in topic:

Alternatives to AIR - suggestions, experiences and thoughts

This is getting really annoying.

If I were admin of this forum I would have banned all disturbers.

Looking forward to a moderated harman forum, to abandon this in the hands of those bloating egos roaming around who kidnapped those discussions. F*** off and get a life, leave us happily discussing how we like AIR, and go to become a millionaire with your new techs somewhere else.

I hope my thought is clear enough.

Extreme thought leads to war.

Fortunately, someone took AIR to do a fresh restart. This is the best thing that could happen to a maintenance mode software (please, don't even try to convince me on the contrary), specially with the state in which it was left (the very worst).

It's more than natural that the new company wants to build a business around AIR and this more than natural (at lease in 2019) that this business is SaaS. A lot of people screamed asking for that, now you got it !

We, as humans also work as a service, at the end of the month you get your salary.

Yes, the price is high (for a "simple" or not so simple maintenance mode) and it's OK for a maintenance mode + performance improvements, when possible + new features/targets like Linux when the time allow it but that, we don't know iet.

And we can't compare any price from Harman to the free solution from Adobe (nothing beats free), however we can and we should demand quality as we will be paying (that's the beauty of SaaS, it serves both sides).

Yes, the could start with a lower price for a maintenance mode then raise the price when they add new features but do you would agree with that, I mean, when try raise de price ?

There is also another possibility and I risk to repeat my self, change tech.

Since several years I see in the forum people saying that Air is dead. I have even see some declaring that they leave Air several time since then. Leaving the first time should be enough if you ask me.

It sounds to me that, convinced that Air is dead, they want to be sure that they have done the right choice by coming here saying Air dead ad nauseum. Sure if you want to kill Air continue that way.

But be conscient that there are people that don't have the choice because they simply don't have the means to remake an app that they have build during several years.

So it seems a bit egoist to try to destroy something a lot of people are living on.

So if those guys who want to leave Air or pray that Air is dead could give a break to others who want to move along with Air...

A lot of people here just want to have the pertinent information on how to make Air live.

For me Harman is a very good news. Sure the roadmap is short but very clear: Android 64. And personalty I think it's fine. If they can be focused on it it's a good thing. They will have a lot of work in the future so give them some time to set up the new Air and fill up the roadmap.

Regarding the price I'm sure there will have some adjustment, but I'm happy to pay Harman if they can help make Air live. If I'm not happy with the new Air, I will stop using it and stop paying for it... and I won't come here crying that Air is dead

Anyway Air is alive!

Listen to me, I would give my first born child to be able to continue working in Flash (yes, I still call it Flash).  So $199/month is not that bad, in comparison.  Take my money lol!

Btw, people are mentioning AIR for Desktop.. I recently started porting some old Flash games to AIR for Desktop and surprisingly the user feedback has been overwhelmingly positive!  They say it's more stable than Flash and they love having access to the games without internet access.  I love that it installs the little icon.