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cjack99
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December 17, 2017
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Audio Plug in Manager missing?

  • December 17, 2017
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Folks, I need some help here.  The Audio Plug in Manger does not show up in the Effect drop down, nor does it show up in the Effects panel, I think it's missing.....

I'm stumped.  I know vst plug ins have to be enabled before they show up as usable, but the place where I always used to enable that was in "Audio effects manager", and now that has gone missing.

History: I purchased Adobe Audition several years ago, as in 12 years ago or so, before they stopped support.  Been using it for years and then suffered a HDD crash a couple years ago, got a new hard drive installed, tried to install Audition and discovered I could no longer license it.  Inertia set in but during the summer I really needed it, so I tracked down the download site and was successful in getting it installed and running under Win10.  Have been using it for several months, and now I need my favorite plug-ins for mastering, and no where can I find the plug in manager so it can be enabled.

All that displays in the Effects drop down (regarding vst) is the following 3 options: "Add / Remove VST Directory..."; "VST Plug in Manager" (I know what you're thinking, bear with me....); And "Refresh Effects List".

I assumed of course that it was now called VST Plug in Manager vs Audio Plug in Manger, and when selected it will scan the appropriate directories and I can click to enable the ones I want, but that's all it does, ever time it's clicked it scans and that's it. 

So - If the "Audio" is now "VST", the question becomes, how does one actually select and launch one of the plug ins?  From my ancient memory I recall just going to Effects drop down and picking the desired plug in off the effects list, but nothing I have enabled displays, so I can't get them to run.

Any help would be really appreciated.

Thanks!

cactus

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Correct answer cjack99

ryclark  wrote

No I understand perfectly what your installed version of Audition is doing, or rather, not doing. I and Steve have been going through all the possible combination's and cannot get out installations to behave like yours. So there is obviously something different about your installation which we are trying to pin down. But I doubt very much that there is anything wrong with the AA3.0 download since there haven't been any other reports of similar problems with it although it appears to be downloaded and installed quite often recently.

Okay, well I just uninstalled it and tried again. Ever since the latest Windows upload, it's not behaving particularly well. I got a memory access error during the installation, and I can't get the 3.0.1 installer past the 'accept' screen - if you accept, it loops back around. Tried it in every compatibility mode there is, and it won't budge.

But, and it's a big but - despite the memory error, the basic program runs fine - with the VST menu available and working...

There's no way that Adobe have shafted this. Microsoft, on the other hand, may well have done...


Well well well, solved, part 1 - may not even need to solve part 2, but we'll see.  HOW?

Went to the Image Line page, and after some mucking about, got my memory refreshed, as I've used Maximus on and off for a pretty long time, and I'd forgotten some things, such as, once you purchase from them, they remember forever, and don't do crappy things like shut down a licensing server.  Yeah, that's a dart at Adobe, I maintain and will always maintain they gave the shaft to a whole lot of people by the way they handled Audition licensing.

Anyway, after I logged on to Image Line, there was my account, and since THEIR policy is free updates forever, I downloaded and re-installed the latest version of FL Studio and IL-Max.  Then I went back into Audition and deleted all the vst directories and added in the Image Line directory, ran plug in manager, and there it was, IL-max, enabled it, and there appeared "VST" in the effects menu, just after "Unsupported".

So my primary go to VST is back.  I still have to find several sub-directories of specific settings for various files I have mastered over the years, but the hard part is done, yippee.  I also have to find some of my other VST's like the noise reduction ones, but I think I'm in the ball park now, that will be solved part 2 which I'll work on.

So, thanks again to Steve and ryclark for their inputs.  I greatly appreciate their patience.  ryclark, for what it's worth, when did the test install of Audition on the old laptop, it too came up with the out of memory error (which is documented on the Adobe site btw), I just ignored it by closing the error box and went ahead with the install, which completed a lot slower than on my new PC, but it did complete and operates apparently fine.  I've since pulled it off the laptop, as it was only used as a test bed to help my sanity.

Cheers, and thanks!

Cactus

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mandeepb17353831
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December 1, 2019

Is there an easier option? 

ryclark
ryclark
Participating Frequently
December 17, 2017

What were your 'favourite plugins' that seem to have gone missing? Remember that all the Effects in the Effects menu are the ones built into Audition. The VST Plugin Manager is only for adding third party VST effects in addition to Audition's built in ones. Which version of Audition were you running before and which one now? There were quite a lot of changes when the code for Audition was rewritten to be cross platform compatible with Apple Macs some years ago.

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cjack99Author
Inspiring
December 17, 2017

Lets see, from a re-read, I see I didn't answer a couple of your questions, sorry:

yes, these are 3rd party, not built into audition.  And the plug-ins are not missing, they are on my PC, I just can't get them launched.  They used to work fine, as indicated by the video clip.  And this is Audition 3.01, the one which is no longer supported due to the retirement of the licensing server,,,, when,,,,, 2009 or 2010'ish???  They call the rest of the line CC now, I think the Audition part is just hanging on nostalgia.  And,,,, no way would I ever "upgrade" to current, Audition 3.01 is all one needs for what I'm doing with it.

Thanks for any help....

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cjack99Author
Inspiring
January 10, 2018

cjack99  wrote

So,,,,, I am beginning to think the audition files that adobe made available for legacy Audition users are corrupt.  Either that or the ones I downloaded became corrupted somehow. But it seems a stretch to only have a missing VST box in the effects list as evidence.  It's the only thing that makes any sense at all to me at this point though, how can this install example be different from all others?  Wondering at the pedigree of the Audition program files you are running?  Did you download yours from the Adobe site? Or????

There's nothing inherently wrong with them at all. The version I've been using for the screengrabs is from the same download that you're using.

The only other thing I can think of (and this is a stretch...) is that you've either got a missing C++ distribution corrupted or missing. The list in this laptop looks like this:

And I think it's the ones marked (x86) you need to worry about. If there is anything wrong, it's much more likely to be a corrupted distribution file than a missing one - one that the installation thought was already there, so it didn't reload, perhaps? Other than that, you'd need the devs to look at this, I think, as I'm pretty much out of ideas...


Well folks, been a few days, more gnashing of teeth.  Since nothing has changed despite the help of Steve; I got creative.  On a whim I dug out an old laptop I have not touched in awhile or two.  It happens to be running on Windows XP heh heh.  So I charged it up, sorted out an ages old anti virus definitions issue, got it on line and proceeded to go through the mire of finding the Audition 3 files for download.  Downloaded Adobe 3, left loopology alone, no point.  Strangely enough, I did not find the 3.01 patch on there, could have sworn I downloaded it before.  Anyway, installed Audition 3 on the laptop, which took some time.  Powered it up, opened a wav file, went to the effects screen and guess what?  What? you all ask.

Exactly the same issue as on my PC, no option to actually RUN a VST, except of course, those that are built into Audition.  Exactly the same effects display as I've previously ranted about.  Just to make ryclark happy, here is my collection of screen pics (not from the laptop, since they are the same on both installs, doesn't make any sense to add more):  The title of the pic explains.

The file names don't show, but the sequence is in order, so I think you can follow it.  Point is, 2 different installs, 2 different operating systems, and the same issue on both.  Pretty sure that rules any sort of corrupted install on my win10 machine.  What it tells me is the Audition download file is at fault, I can't see any other possibility.  I'm now researching the best way to go, but will probably try to find another sound mastering program, and eat my losses with Audition.  No way I can afford $20 a month for Audition cc or what ever they call it, I don't use it but 3 or 4 times a year.  Not happy with Adobe at the moment, not at all.  I don't know if they even care about us "old" guys that used the legacy product, which I thoroughly loved.

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