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Quantum88
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November 17, 2024
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Clicks and buffer

  • November 17, 2024
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I want to eliminate  the persistent, tiny yet audible clicks in  my Yeti Blue Pro voice recordings on Windows 10.

In my research online I found that there are several potential causes and solutions, most of which I have already addressed.

One potential solutionrelated to Audition is to increase the buffer size.  An AI article says :

Go to Edit > Preferences> Audio Hardware and increase the buffer size.. A larger buffer will reduce the likelihood of clicks but may increase latency, so balance this based on your needs.

 

Ok. Except that there is NO buffer setting in Audition, only Latency - unless this is the buffer labelled LATENCY (just to confuse everyone).   In Audacity I used to use some years ago, Buffer and Latency were two separate settings.  Go figure.

 

Is this the actual buffer size setting?   if so, I have it already set at the max 500 ms and yet the clicks continue.

 

Removing them is very time consuming, as the Diagnostic plugin is not very subtle changing the quality of the whole highlighted audio, so I need to remove 99% of them manually one by one., to preserve the audio quality.

 

Grateful for advice.

 

 

 

 

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SteveG_AudioMasters_
SteveG_AudioMasters_
Community Expert
November 17, 2024

Yes they are the same thing but confusingly labeled. If it's tiny clicks, it won't be the buffer settings - errors there are far more audible. Are you trying to record in Waveform, or Multitrack view? And can you provide a short sample of these clicks?

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Quantum88Author
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November 18, 2024

I record in Waveform only.

Interestingly, when recording last night I reduced gain by few degrees (from about +5 to -5) on the Yeti knob, and to my surprise, there was a reduction of clicks by about 50% . I can't reduce any further as the recording level gets too low.

here is a sample.

not sure what is the best format here so have attached both wav and mp3

thanks

SteveG_AudioMasters_
SteveG_AudioMasters_
Community Expert
November 20, 2024

Well, I'm not an audio engineer, but I am a professional media producer and have very sensitive hearing.

I don't claim that I can hear outside the 20 Hz - 20 kHz range, but I can hear the depth of the audio - how much information is in it - undistinguisshable to  most people. 

 

I can tell the significant difference - which perhaps other people can't detect - in the output audio quality of Yeti Pro and other Yeti models.   

 

Just like I physically feel strong elecromagnetic field emitted by devices, high voltage power lines and mobile towers which 98% of the population can't.  Can you use a mobile phone stuck to your ear? I can't, as within seconds I get a strong burning sensation in my brain on the other side of the phone, which increases  to the point of being unbearable. I can't be in a strong WI FI field either, for the same reason with increasing headache and nausea.

You've guessed it - I don't use wi fi or blutooth anywhere in my environment.

But that's just to illuistrate my point.

 

With the Yeti - the difference is exactly what you have described as "flatness" vs richensss of the audio.

 

When I first heard it I was stunned as it was unexpected, so I quickly compared the specs.  All specs are almost identifcal except the sample rate.  Given what it is and what impact it has on the quality of the audio, and with all other parameters being the same - it explains the difference 🙂

 


As all actual engineers know, it's not what a specification tells you that's important - it's what it doesn't tell you. And you can cannot really determine anything about the behaviour of a device from its specification alone - there are many, many examples of this. It is even possible, in this instance, that reducing the sample rate from 192k to 44.1 might actually help your situation; stranger things have been known. And that's the point; you can't determine what will make a difference just by looking at a piece of paper, especially if you haven't been trained to interpret what it says correctly. And in this case, you need to be aware of Shannon and Weaver's work, and Nyquist limits before you even begin.

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