Is there way how to cut selection in half and fade in/out selected portion in multitrack editor?

[karyslav]

Hi!

My workflow is filled with a lot of cuting out of the mass.

So what i do, is I find a mistake/breath or something, cut it in half, fade out previous part, fade in next part. If I can select portion with an error, make some „magic“ and it will be cuted exactly in half, and from left it wil be fade-out, and on the right side fade in on the lenght of the selection of each pieces, that would save me like a 1-2 hours a day.

Is there way, how to do this? Even with make it two part.

You can see what I want to achieve on video: https://youtu.be/P8KhUZXinE4

Is there a way? Thank you!

[SteveG_AudioMasters_]

But that's what 'editing' is! You can't automate that, as the precise nature of what you are cutting is entirely programme-dependant. No automated system could achieve what you can, simply because it can't hear the result. The only thing I'd do differently with your example is overlap the joins slightly, so that there's no possibility of any discontinuity at that point, which there could be potentially if you just butt them together.

It becomes a little easier to make the split if you use the keyboard shortcut Ctrl-K, which will split the clip where the cursor is, on the highlighted track, but that's as far as you can really go with this - everything else depends upon listening to the result.

[karyslav]

Sorry. I did maybe explain it badly.

I do not want to automate that for auto editing the whole timeline! Nono.

I just want to make this „action“ only on the selected portion of the track.

I will select portion. Do a shortcut - the selection get sliced exatly in the half of the selection, and on the both sides of the selection from cut it will me fadein/fadeout.

This CAN be automate, because i will select only specific portion and the operation can be done automatically. Ony on the short, selected path. Only on the one breath.

Is it clearer now?

[ryclark]

What you might find a bit quicker is to do Ripple Delete Time Selection in Selected Track. Rather than Splitting the clip and then moving the two parts together afterwards Ripple Delete will remove the selected portion and automatically bring the ends together. You can assign a keyboard shortcut to do the Ripple Delete which will make it much quicker. then you can just grab the end of one of the clips and slide it over the other to automatically produce a crossfade.

[SteveG_AudioMasters_]

Alternatively, just select slightly less than the section you want to remove, and use Ctrl+k. This will cut out the selection, and if you then slide the parts you want back together with a slight overlap, you have your fade created automatically.

[karyslav]

Thank you! I did experiment after this question and this was the fastest solution, that one with rip-delete is even better.

Now if I just find out how to select two portions of track and it make fadeout-\|/-fadein around the cut, my problem is solved

Is it possible to do that with scripting/favorites or something?

[ryclark]

As we both mentioned above you just have to drag the end of one over the other to automatically make a crossfade. Normally auto crossfade makes both sides equal but lower volume in the middle but you can click on the Crossfade icon (little square with diagonal dark/light grey on the clip) to alter the shape of the two fade curves. However the default is usually OK for most uses.

[Trevor_Asq]

I know exactly what you are trying to achieve...

May I recommend these feature requests?

Multitrack: Add transitions across time selection – Adobe video & audio apps

Batch Fades in Audition – Adobe video & audio apps

Both sadly lacking in votes 

In the meantime you *could* do the editorial in PPro and then move across to Au for fine tuning. You’ll find the waveforms & general interaction more annoying but you can cut/add default transition as two keystrokes, having marked the region with in & out points as PP has no range selection tool.

Time selection tool like Audition – Adobe video & audio apps  - another less than popular request!

I can never believe how poor DAWs are at actual editing, requiring multiple interactions to cut/transition/maintain sync. I presume it’s partly because the antecedents were single tape machines, or ganged tape machines to increase track count, whereas the linear video suite was usually at least 3 machine, often 7+ all computer controlled, & maintaining sync & offset relationships at all times was key. Those with much greater experience will hopefully chime in & correct me ...

[Trevor_Asq]

Don’t get me wrong, you audio guys should definitely decide how the tool you use most should be developed!

But there’s good stuff in the NLEs that would help the DAWs as surely as there’s good stuff in DAWS that benefit NLEs ( much of it already stolen)

[karyslav]

Thank you.

So this looks like that a lot of guys is just „doing it the same way“ and not looking for faster solution.

Or maybe, I am just really bad at editing audio

Actually, rip-delete helped me to speed up the process and accidentaly, I find out that I really CAN mix the two parts instead of pure silencing them like in 99 % of the cases.

So that means my editing is now little faster, with crossfade, but little faster.

I can live with that for some time,

[karyslav]

Thank you! I never tried that so this will help me a huge! thank you, i will bind a keyboard shortcut for that!

Thanks!