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Jon Chambers
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August 10, 2017
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This should be a really simple thing, but I can't do it

  • August 10, 2017
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Every time I google this, I must be using the wrong terminology, because I can't find the answers, so I will explain this in long form here:

I'm working on a project with a team member that's using Audacity, but I'm using Audition. He's doing the foley, while I'm doing dialogue and music.

To make life easier for me, he works in multiple tracks so that two sound effects aren't ever fused together. That way, I can move them separately, adjust the volume separately, and so on. However, to get this many tracks, there is a lot of complete silence in between. When I say "silence", I don't mean "microphone is recording but nothing is happening" silence (as my google searching seems to keep defining the word) but total zeros in the wav form silence. No sound at all. (Please, someone tell me the correct professional term for that. Complete silence? Utter silence? Absolute silence? Air break? Dead air? Silence that is actually silent? Negative infinity decibels? No idea.)

So, what I should do, now that I've dragged and dropped the foley tracks into place, is get the blade tool and mark every point where the silence starts or stops. Then, manually click and delete every silent clip, so that the only clips which remain are clips with noise in them. From there I can adjust the timing, volume, and other properties of each individual clip without adjusting the track as a whole. I can also glance at a section of silence and know with absolute certainty that there is no sound in that section, because instead of being in a bright purple rectangle, it's the dark grey of there being absolutely no clip in the multitrack editor at all.

Doing this manually would take forever, and I might delete an actual sound by accident because I didn't zoom in far enough to see the subtle wave form.

What is the automated way of doing this?

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    griggsymedia
    New Participant
    August 18, 2017

    You might find the diagnostics tool “mark audio” to be helpful (in the waveform editor). You can set thresholds for what qualifies as “audio” vs “silence”. The tool can create markers—indicating the duration of the silence—that would likely get you close to what you’re looking for.

    SteveG_AudioMasters_
    Community Expert
    August 18, 2017

    griggsymedia  wrote

    You might find the diagnostics tool “mark audio” to be helpful (in the waveform editor). You can set thresholds for what qualifies as “audio” vs “silence”. The tool can create markers—indicating the duration of the silence—that would likely get you close to what you’re looking for.

    So you didn't look at the screen grab just above your post, then?

    SteveG_AudioMasters_
    Community Expert
    August 10, 2017

    Q4T  wrote

    So, what I should do, now that I've dragged and dropped the foley tracks into place, is get the blade tool and mark every point where the silence starts or stops. Then, manually click and delete every silent clip, so that the only clips which remain are clips with noise in them.

    It's digital silence, and you can't delete it as there's nothing to delete! You can only delete real clips - the ones you inserted yourself. The rest of the space is simply that - digital silence, because nothing is playing. If you want background sound of any description at all, you have to add it yourself.

    Jon Chambers
    Inspiring
    August 10, 2017

    You misunderstand.

    In all the places where there is digital silence, in the multi track editor, I want there to be no clip there.

    So, imagine I've got a clip that goes, "Bang! Ting! Boom!" I want Three clips. One that goes "Bang!" one that goes "Ting!" and one that goes "Boom!" If I hit play, it will still sound no different, but now I can drag "Ting!" back and forth without "Bang!" and "Boom!" moving with it.

    Yes, I could manually put two cuts between "Bang!" and "Ting!", and another two cuts between "Ting!" and "Boom!", remember this is the multitrack editor, I click between each pair of cuts so that I now have three very short clips instead of one very long one.

    Jon Chambers
    Inspiring
    August 26, 2017

    You need Diagnostics. You should be able to work all of it out from this screen-grab:


    I did check all the things you told me to check.