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March 6, 2020
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Camera-matching Profiles are applicable to Camera Raw, Lightroom Classic, and the Lightroom Ecosystem products (Desktop, Mobile, and Web).

Note: Not all cameras will receive camera-matching profiles.

This thread is a place to request missing camera-matching profiles for specific models. Please include a complete camera model designation and a list of the specific camera-matching profiles you are requesting in your request. If your camera is already listed in this thread, please reply to the specific camera’s post rather than just posting in-line.

Camera-matching profiles are provided for some camera manufacturers and models. As raw support is added for individual camera models, camera-matching profiles for some cameras may be added when raw support is initially offered. Other cameras may see camera-matching profiles added at a later date. It is also possible that a specific camera may see a long delay or perhaps not ever receive a specific camera-matching profile.

Note:

ETAs for camera-matching profiles are not available. New feature announcements are only made after support is added.

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KrenFor78

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I recently made a vacation in the United States where I almost exclusively used my Google Pixel 7 Pro for photography. Being a RAW aficionado I photographed in JPG & RAW - and good that I did so, because the JPG engine of the Pixel tends to oversharpen pictures much too aggressively.

But developing the Pixel 7 Pro's DNGs in Camera Raw (through LR Classic/Photoshop in their current versions) I ran into a lot of unexpected problems:

I. No really matching color profiles

From the available color profiles the

1. Adobe standard ones are flat and blow out highlights;

2. A profile named "Google Pixel" that is available in the "Profiles" section of the profile browser (and was not made by me neither imported from anywhere else) matches the OOC JPGs best in terms of tonalities, but produces a strong color shift (e.g. green tinge on blue skies);

3. A profile named "Google Embedded Camera Profile" that can be found in the "Older Version" section of the profile browser renders highlights correctly, but darkens all the rest of the picture.

4. All four profiles handle distortion correction differently to the OOC JPG.

II. No possibility to add custom color profiles

I've documented that particular problem in this thread: https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/custom-made-x-rite-colorchecker-dcp-profiles-don-t-show-up-in-lightroom-classic-12-4/m-p/13911688#M327970

So I really would like an update on the Color Profiles / Distortion Correction concerning the Google Pixel 7 Pro and its four cameras. As it is all available profiles provide are not a very enjoyable starting point for PP, and it definitly isn't possible to match the color response of the Pixel to my other cameras via creating custom color profiles (see II.)

I attach two examples illustrating my point: You'll find two series (#1.1-1.4 and 2.1-2.4) of images. Each series shows renditions of the same Pixel 7 Pro (main rear camera) DNG with the profiles "Adobe Standard" (1.1/2.1), "Google Embedded Camera Profile" (1.2/2.2) and "Google Pixel" (1.3/2.3) applied. The fourth images of each series (1.4/2.4) shows the OOC JPG the Pixel 7 Pro provides alongside the DNG. If you compare the OOC JPG to the three DNG renditions you see that the "Google Pixel" profile comes closest to it - but the color shift (to green) in the sky of the DNG rendition is unmistakable. You also can see the difference in distortion correction.

Kren

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Antoine29488999lo2h

New Participant

Hi,

Unfortunately no Classic Negativ on Lightroom for iPad using a X-Pro 3. Really hope this could be fixed!

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wiuwiu

New Participant

cannot use camera matching profiles for ricoh gr3 (DNG file) at lightroom for ipad.

lightroom cc or lightroom for mobile has it but only at ipad, doesn't have profiles.

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austinkabbaz

New Participant

Hello, I have a Hasselblad X2D. When I import 3FR files in Lightroom CC the profile that is applied is "camera standard" which is not recognized by the mobile versions of LCC. The whole point of the camera is better color management, so I hope I can keep using these profiles, or else I will need to move to using Phocus...

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David1249

Participating Frequently

When is Adobe going to get off their butts and add the missing profiles for the Fujifilm X-T5. Classic neg, Nostalgic Neg and one other I don't care about bleach bypass is/are still missing from camera matching profiles. They are all available in Fufi X Raw Studio and Capture One 23 so get with it Adobe. Please! It's been a month already. How long does it take to re-write a string of code? PS, I've been a sub to the Adobe plan for years now. First time I've ever been disappointed.

TheDigitalDog

Inspiring

When is Adobe going to get off their ~~butts~~ and add the missing profiles for the Fujifilm X-T5. Classic neg, Nostalgic Neg and one other I don't care about bleach bypass is/are still missing from camera matching profiles.

By @David1249

Yeah, especially after they promised to....

Oh wait. 🤔 🤔

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"

geraldm78661191

Inspiring

How do I create a camera profile for a Fujifilm X-T5 camera tp be able to use it in Lightroom Classic?

GoldingD

Brainiac

If you were looking for the missing Camera Matching Profiles, for the Fujifilm X-T5, they just appeared in LrC v12.1 released tonight!

johnrellis

Brainiac

> Users not being able to select their lens for corrections based on camera/lens combo is VERY common in LrC and ACR for mirrorless cameras. Lotta of complaints about that in this community.

Try to reread why I posted again, slowly - I was making some of the following points

1 ) do not generalize
2) Adobe is not using optics correction embedded in raw files for Canon and Sony dSLM cameras, so unless Adobe makes a profile or you make it youself - there is no optics correction ( which is a shame )
3) when Adobe is using optics correction embedded in raw files for other manufacturers then Adobe does not let us switch off some parts of it that some of us do not want to be corrected ( like vignetting, for example )
4) what Adobe does ( or does not ) probably ( a theory only ) is governed by some ageeements with manufacturers

Here is a more precise generalization that speaks to the question raised about the X-T5:

In general, for cameras in which LR and Camera Raw recognize embedded lens profiles, Adobe won't be providing its own lens profiles, since the manufacturers are embedding their profiles in the raw files.

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Steven27404922b331

New Participant

Hello, I used to edit all my raw images taken with my DJI Air2S drone using the color profile "Adobe Lanscape". This was a very helpful starting point and made my drone photos really pop. I have sinced moved on to the Mavic 3 and with my RAW/DNG images, I am only able to choose from Color/Monochrome color profiles. I called customer service and they stated that they cannot help me download a plug-in to add that color profile to the Mavic 3 images. It would need to be a app updated that allows us to use it. Please Adobe, allow us to use "Adobe Landscape" color profile with our Mavic 3 and Mini 3 pro raw drone photos.

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Ali Yeo

New Participant

Can you please do one for Canon R6 mk ii (newly released), specifally the neutral colour profile. I have a EOS R as my B cam, and when i edited both the photos it turned out so differently, it is a nightmare!

I'm using Camera Matching Neutral v2 on my Eos R, and Camera Matching Neutral on my Eos R6ii (i don't think the curves are accurate, the shadows are crushed and the highlights are higher than what I'm used to)

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Yunjian27224739j1eb

Participating Frequently

My camera is fuji "X-T5" and it's support "Classic Negative" film simulation. but it's missing in iOS (8.0.1) lightroom (RAW)

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Yunjian27224739j1eb

Participating Frequently

@Sean McCormack

Sean McCormack

Community Expert

About to order one myself.

I'm seeing it on the X-T4 in Lr 8.01 on my iPhone 14 Pro. It's definitely a Raf you're viewing?

Sean McCormack. Author of 'Essential Development 3'. Magazine Writer. Former Official Fuji X-Photographer.

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bolkar

New Participant

Hello!

I have upgraded my gear from X-T3 to X-H2. I realized some of the recent film simulations (Classic Neg, Nostalgic Neg etc.) are missing from the Camera Matching presets. I think adding them will be great, especially for my workflow.

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