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This post applies to Adobe Camera Raw plug-in.
Adobe Camera Raw team is sharing an early look of our new Reflection Removal feature, which removes reflections caused by plate glass surfaces from photos.
Note:
Check out HelpX for more detailed usage information. For more technical information on the underlying technology, please refer to this Blog post.
Getting started with the Reflection Removal feature:
When using the slider, the key values to note are:
Please try the feature and share feedback in this community forum. It would help to include details like how you access Camera Raw (via Adobe Bridge or Photoshop), your computer system details, and as much information about what you like or do not like about the resulting photo quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
When to use Reflection Removal
The feature is designed to deal with large-area reflections when shooting through windows. Many other types of reflections occur in nature and are captured in photographs, but this feature may not recognize and handle those. We plan to work on expanding the supported reflection types in the future.
Example use-cases for the feature include:
How best to use Reflection Removal
For best results, try the new feature following these suggestions:
Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, Emerging Products Group
Update (01-16-2025)
To improve the performance and results of this feature, it is important that examples of images that are failing to properly remove the reflections are forwarded to the team via your report. A large variety of file formats are allowed as attachments in these forum posts. The best option is to attach your image's raw file directly to your feedback post. Note that there is a 50 MB limit on an attachment's file size. If your raw file is too large to attach, the best option is to share the file via a file-sharing service (Dropbox or similar) and then share the link in your feedback post. Thank you for continuing to provide feedback on this Tech Preview!
If you have already shared your raw file with us - thank you!
~Rikk
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I think I figured it out - it was a reflection in a window in the background that couldn't be removed. When I did a test shot through a window, it worked well.
Are you sure you're using the 'best' setting and not 'preview'? Preview will certainly show you a blurry pic. But on certain images, reflection removal removes too much, and you get a muddle. Adjusting the intensity slider can help.
Removing eyeglass reflections is a goal Adobe mentioned in their blog post from last December (Removing window reflections in Adobe Camera Raw), so at least we know they’re interested in working on it.
Those results are consistent with a lot of the reports in this thread…it works fine on recent computers (for Macs, that means Apple Silicon M1 through M4 work great), but there seems to be a problem with the graphics drivers for the GPU in some Intel Macs, and this feature relies heavily on the GPU. Because Mac graphics drivers are supplied by Apple, it might need a macOS update to get fixed. But we never know exactly what Apple will fix in the next macOS update, so no guarantees.
Did you by any chance just use the 'preview' mode instead of the best mode? A lot of people have been making that error, and the preview mode is intentionally low res.
Seems Quality is on "preview". Try setting it on "best".
Eric,
do I understand it well the reflections will only be removed when the glass plate fills the whole frame of the picture. As it won't remove reflections from a windows that's part of a larger picture.
I tried to cut part of the picture, so only a small part of the window remains. Feed only the small part to the reflection removal and paste it back into the original picture, using Photoshop. It's not perfect, but ..
I noticed doing this, the reflection feature reacts differently than using the entire picture. With the entire picture I can't get any reflection off either.
well Eric, since I tempory used the jpg picture kastalia67_s provided, I had to work in jpeg. I only shoot RAW and I only use Ps. Just wanted to see what it would do if I narrowed the view to just a part of that car window like it was one whole picture. And it did work.
If I can use that technique with a RAW, the result can only be better.
Looking forward to see support for small panes of glass in RAW.
FitzFoto, that suggestion will not work. That crop will not change the RAW result. To remove reflections from a cropped region you must convert the RAW image to a PNG/TIFF/JPEG.
Here is one workflow:
1. Open the image in Lightroom.
2. Make a virtual copy, and crop the virtual copy
3. Export the original and cropped image as TIFF files
4. Open the original and cropped TIFF in Photoshop
5. Use the Camera RAW filter to remove reflections from the cropped image
6. Copy the clean, cropped image int
...Kastalia, please precisely follow the steps I enumerated. It will work. There are other variants that will work, but not what you did.
FitzFhoto, as you probably know, when you crop a RAW photo in Lr or ACR, the underlying image is not modified. Specifying a crop simply tells Lr/ACR how to render that RAW image onto your screen. The remove reflections tool operates before the crop is applied by Lr/ACR when your RAW is rendered onto your screen. Why? There is a long list of usability issues th
...Hi Eric,
I just tested your steps, precisely.
Screen capture shows you a little reflection suppress in part of the girls face.
Well it is the best I could achieve up to now.
Here are the steps :
1. Open the image in Lightroom.
2. Make a virtual copy, and crop the virtual copy
3. Export the original and cropped image as TIFF files
4. Open the original and cropped TIFF in Photoshop
5. Use the Camera RAW filter to remove reflections from the cropped image
6. Copy the clean, cropped image into the original
7.
...That explains, why it removed some of the reflections in my workflow. I didn't actually crop the picture. I marked the area, copied, created a new image and paste only that part. So, it had no other information of a larger picture when I applied the reflection removal.
Then I copied the result back to the original picture and aligned it.
That’s expected…the feature is currently designed to remove reflections in a window filling the entire image frame between camera and subject. Eyeglasses only cover a small area of the frame so they aren’t handled yet. But in the original Adobe blog post announcing reflection removal, they did say they’d like to handle eyeglasses in a future update.
Since the blog post was published last December they did add support for some non-raw formats, extended the feature to Lightroom, and just introdu
...We can all see the reflections in the floor, but from what Adobe has said throughout this thread and in their blog post, the feature is currently designed to more clearly reveal what’s showing behind the reflections in a large transparent glass window covering the entire frame. Although they might cover more use cases later.
Removing the reflections from the floor with the current version of this feature wouldn’t be expected to reveal anything behind the floor, because the floor isn’t supposed
...Not always, but it's better on RAW pictures as they contain more detail information.
But if the glass plate with the reflection doesn't cover the whole image, it doesn't work on RAW either.
This reply, earlier in this thread, explains why:
Also, it isn’t called “glare reduction.”
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This is a photo of a room with chairs in it, and large doors that are opened to show a yard. The subject is the room, chairs, and yard. There is not glass blocking your entire view of this subject. The tool has therefore correctly determined that there is not glass that covers your field of view. It has therefore correctly removed nothing from your photo. In the future we are considering to remove reflections from small panes of glass that are within the scene, but that is not supported today. We remove reflections from glass that covers your entire view of your subject, as it would if you are looking through a window. Please see the blog to understand more about what the tool does.
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Ah ok, merci de votre retour. Fausse joie, j'ai cru que je pourrai me passer de filtre polarisant ^^
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We are considering to support removal of reflections from small panes of glass in the future. That is noted at the end of the blog.
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When I use the remove reflections tool my image pixelates even in the preview mode. Why is this?
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A variety of older hardware platforms have exhibited this issue. Please consider sharing your system information. We recommend that this tool will work best on more recent software/hardware setups.
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Thanks for your reply. I have a 2019 iMac
3.7GHz 6 core Intel Core i5
Radeon Pro 580x 8gb
Memory 32gb 2667 MHz DDR4
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What a great tool! Getting some great results so far. One request I have is to implement the abillity for the feature to remove textured reflections. Some old photos I tried to restore have a textured grain which reflected the light when my family snapped a photo of the physical photo. The reflections tool appears to not recognize this texture as a reflection (when it technically is). Would love for the tool to be able to remove these types of reflections in the future!
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Thank you for sharing this example. We'll keep it in mind.
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HELP.
This bug used to happen somewhat infrequently before the latest couple of updates, but for me it's now occurring on every photo. Here's the scenario: if you use denoise before using reflection removal, it completely disables reflection removal's ability to ... well, remove reflections. It might remove a little haze, but that's it.
I do a lot of interior shots in dark museums, and wind up with some significant noise. So I use the denoise tool often, then tweak the results so that I retain as much detail in the shot as possible. Unfortunately, I also have to deal with highly reflective museum glass cases. Now I'm stuck. Three exports are below - original, with no tweaks; reflection removal used, but no denoise; and denoise and reflection removal applied. You'll note that the version where denoise was used is virtually identical to the unmodified original, save the removal of a bit of haze.
Here's a link to the original RAW file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZGuPTHEvfbIVaIqJKMbvnBX9X5AtBM8L/view?usp=sharing
Is anyone else experiencing this? I'm using Canon CR3 RAW files, and previously everything worked great, for the most part. Now I have to decide between denoise or reflection removal - I can't use both. Huge issue for me.
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Could you be specific about which updates you are referring to?
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The last two beta updates. I'm using the most current version: 26.9.0. This last update has really increased the issue to the point where I can't use both denoise and reflection removal, since denoise basically prevents the reflection removal from working correctly. I had noticed some of this behavior in earlier releases (and commented on it), but it was infrequently causing issues and I worked around it. Now it's consistent - I simply can't use denoise if I need to use reflection removal.
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Thanks for this extra information. I have about four test images that you've sent over the past two months, and two were demonstrating this issue. If you have more that demonstrate this issue, it could be useful. Thanks.
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Yes, I know that I do and I've saved some of the with and without denoise results (both with reflection removal). I'll dig back in that folder and post them to this thread). Separately, I'll post some examples of reflection removal not understanding that reflections aren't part of the background ... different (possibly related) issue.
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OK, here's another one - and the difference with denoise and without (both with reflection removal) is very stark. The image is cropped here, but cropping doesn't make any difference. I've labeled everything according to the tools applied, and added one that shows an exported JPEG with no tools applied. This bug is really causing me a lot of trouble - I take photos in museums as part of my business, and the reflection removal tool really helped me out. Now I'm taking photos that I assume I'll be able to remove reflections of when I return home, but ... that's no longer the case. Manual noise removal is never very satisfying, and my images typically have a lot of noise, given the very low light conditions I work in.
Here's a link to the RAW CR3 file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/15Iz-prEYEGanAlTceZ00IJc1BFng2R13/view?usp=sharing
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Here's another example for you, Eric. I've labeled them accordingly - all JPEG exports from PS Beta. One with just reflection removal (but note the odd 'crackle' pattern applied to the right side of the pot), one with just denoise, and one with both applied. As usual, with both denoise and reflection removal applied, reflection removal mostly fails - but if denoise isn't applied, then reflection removal is successful.
Original RAW file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1c4V8LOuTB_yp2OzFtxyuO5ESmgtnrrHz/view?usp=sharing
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Thanks, Chapps. Noted.
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32 pages of comments is intimidating. I only want to leave a comment. Wish List: add the ability to crop or mask so the reflection removal is applied locally, not globally. Examples: to remove reflection from eye glasses (!) or perhaps a window that is only on part of a scene.
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Yes, many folks have already noted this, and its mentioned in the blog.
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Please expand the ability to remove reflections on surfaces, not just windows. I think is a great idea to include this feature on Lightroom, but with A.I. it might be able to work well within the software for surface reflections to be removed - think Bowling Alleys and overhead lights how they reflect on shiny surfaces. If Lightroom can detect those and minimize them to look natural but eaiser on the yes - you have a winner.
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Thanks for your suggestion!
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Not seeing this as a great addition to LR Classic and if it's wasting resources, get rid of it until it's working well.
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Please consider posting the failure cases you refer to. Many prior posts about failures result from applying the tool to reflections that it is not designed to work on. You can also read the blog to learn more about how to use the tool effectively.
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Reflection in Rx glasses are not removed with this. In fact, when I tried a photo with me wearing glasses the reflection was worse when I applied the tool.
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The remove reflections tool is designed to remove reflections from plate glass windows that cover your view. It does not remove reflections from small panes of glass that are part of the scene, like eye glasses. Please refer to the blog to understand how to use the tool, and what it is intended to do.
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