Adobe, Linux Support, and the Linux Foundation.

[gai.ra.III]

While generally I've only lurked the Adobe forums I've finally worked up guts to post this. I also know that about every 1-2 months this question is asked but I think it deserves a another go around.

My premises is this:

Adobe joined the Linux Foundation in 2008 for a focus on Linux for Web 2.0  Applications like Adobe® Flash® Player and Adobe AIR™. Currently Adobe holds a silver membership status with the Linux Foundation. So why in the world do they not have any Creative Cloud Programs available in Linux without the need for WINE and other such workarounds. I think it's a sucky move to support the Linux Foundation and use Linux in the back-end while not doing anything to support actual Linux users who have for at least a decade requested Adobe desktop products on Linux. Sure it's going to take a lot of manpower, financial resources, etc. But to truly support Linux and the Linux Foundation I think it's necessary that y'all do make things like Photoshop and Lightroom available for the Linux desktop. In any regards the wider Linux community would most likely help with testing and debugging programs. We're used to it.

[greenplugin]

We are subscribers of adobe CC, and we need support for linux, just one distribution, just ubuntu or any other, You can make adobe CC compatible with wine, It's time to stop ignoring the Linux community.

[lukes5815886]

I came across this

Dov Isaacs (Adobe Staff) "This simply won't happen unless there are major shifts in the industry towards desktop Linux adoption. And quite frankly, Linux desktop adoption has not only not taken off, but it has floundered tremendously over the last several years."

Re: A Plea From The People: Creative Suite for Linux

Dov Isaacs said that on the 18-Feb-2013 but as we speak the market as shifted towards Linux adoption it's just a couple of companies who is holding it back now and one BIG player is adobe themselves.

Please adobe, support Linux

[Cacogen]

Here's another good reason to offer Adobe's software on Linux: Crostini -- that is, new ChromeOS devices will run GNU/Linux apps. So developing for Linux also gets you ChromeOS. That should be worth it -- I don't see any valid excuse now.

[Abambo]

Hanro50  wrote

MS has essentially a Monopoly;

You are 20 years too late.

[Abambo]

Cacogen  wrote

Here's another good reason to offer Adobe's software on Linux: Crostini -- that is, new ChromeOS devices will run GNU/Linux apps. So developing for Linux also gets you ChromeOS. That should be worth it -- I don't see any valid excuse now.

What a nonsense. MacOS is using a Unix Kernel.

[Cacogen]

Not sure I follow you? You are saying that Linux should be doable because MacOS' kernel is also Unix-like?

The point is that developing GNU/Linux versions of Adobe's software also gets Adobe's software on ChromeOS devices -- so that's GNU/Linux users + ChromeOS users, which is a significant and increasing number of users.

ChromeOS + Crostini gives one access to Android *and* GNU/Linux applications, which should make Chromebooks/boxen increasingly interesting to, e.g., web designers/devs, and such.

The thing that would really suck is if they somehow build apps for ChromeOS, without GNU/Linux compatibility.

[Sour_Queen]

It's not supported, but it is possible due to other developers' effort... surprisingly they are not from Adobe.

[Ray_Comm]

Im sick of windows bloatware and constant stealing money.  Apple hardware costs are ridiculous.

I moved to linux, came here to find out how to use the product I have been begrudgingly paying for years.

Im going to cancel, period.  This thread is 6yrs old?

I guess it is what it is. 

[lukes5815886]

I'm in the same boat I use adobe on windows I want to move but I'm stuck since they don't support Linux I did install Linux set everything up running great come to the point of installing all the stuff tried wine hell no it's not good enough at all it needs to be native since everything would be there but I know soooo many designers who are in the same boat adobe is a big key player in this and tb frank I think there is something fishy must be going on in the back if they don't support Linux like 2 BIG very BIG players are heavily jumping onto Linux valve is one of them but someone who even supports Linux is Microsoft.. and they see the potential and they are scared since the way windows it heading it's just gonna crumble every update the do they slow the system and make even less user friendliness ui/ux... like before I had to only do 2 clicks to get to the programs and features now I have to do 3 don't sound as much but that's not taking into account how slow it is loading their rubbish ui some times.....

adobe just please support Linux sooo many people wanna use Linux but your the only ones now who are holding people back and if you wanna thrive in the future this would be a great business idea

[tand_pijn]

You could set a virtual machine running your Windows installation from Linix, but it would mess your Windows activation. MS software would think it's running on another device and thats against the licensing. Supplying another CDKey would fix the activation. You would loss some hardware capabilities too but I guess it may work well.

Im doing exactly opposite on Windows - I run my Debian installation as VM and very seldom have to reboot to run Debianm as my main OS.

[Dale - TC]

Look, I understand your concerns as a company that the cost, effort, etc., may not be worth it when "the whole world runs on Windows and Mac", I get it (somewhat).  But as you know, things are changing, the number one operating system in the world right now is [drum roll] Android, which runs on the Linux kernel, and you already make mobile versions of Creative Cloud software on Android anyway, so (I'm not a developer, but just guessing) how hard can it be to port to a desktop operating system that uses the same Linux kernel?

You might argue lack of market share/user share, but is Mac user share overall that much better?  Yet you make Mac versions of CC.  And how do you actually know the true desktop Linux market/user share anyway, since desktop Linux OS'es are free and therefore you can't track sales?

Besides all this, there is this CRUCIAL concern overall in the current state of desktop operating systems.  Both the Microsoft and Apple duopoly control of the desktop MUST. BE. ENDED.  On the one hand, you have Microsoft, which has screwed up their OS for years, and most recently has made Windows totally unstable, DELETING FILES and causing all kinds of havoc which has been well reported in the news.  On the other hand, you have Apple who, if you're a Windows user and want to switch so your files aren't deleted, makes you replace your entire perfectly good hardware that you worked hard to invest in, then locks that overpriced hardware down so you can't upgrade or replace hardware when it fails - the latest example of this is their T2 chip.

If Linux has such a small user base and porting to it isn't considered important enough for Adobe, why have post after post for MANY years on this site continued to this day and to this minute, and why have major companies like Blackmagic Design committed to offering Windows, Mac, AND Linux versions of DaVinci Resolve, an ADVANCED post-production suite comprising of an editor, industry-standard color corrector, effects tool, and audio tool?  Why do major companies like AJA, who make I/O hardware for post-production systems, offer Linux drivers?  Does the competition know something you don't or won't accept?  I read all the time about more and more people switching from Windows to Linux because of all the garbage Windows has been putting people through in their workflows, and with limited resources, they don't necessarily want to start all over again buying into Mac hardware.  If Adobe would port their software to Linux, you would see a TSUNAMI of new Linux users, maybe even new subscriptions.  It would bring desktop Linux to the mainstream, because you have very powerful creative software that people want to use without the OS getting in the way.  If/when Creative Cloud becomes entirely cloud-based, none of us will be having this conversation, but until that day comes, we need Adobe on _desktop_ Linux, preferably Ubuntu Linux since that's among the easiest "flavors" for creatives (and is definitely among the friendliest for accepting both FOSS and proprietary software).

At least Photoshop for a pilot project to see how that sells, before trying Premiere and After Effects?

[Dale - TC]

Well, I guess except for Photoshop (although there's GIMP, but I don't know how good that is), you could always look at Blackmagic Design's DaVinci Resolve.  They offer Windows, Mac, and Linux versions (albeit just Red Hat/Cent OS, but do an Internet search, there's supposed to be a script that makes it work in Ubuntu, no problem).  Good luck!

[Dale - TC]

Because you can't install it on regular off-the-shelf PC hardware, and therefore can't upgrade it when you want/need to.  And the latest nail in the coffin is the T2 chip, which Apple claims is for security but they've also confirmed that your OS and software won't run without it.  That combined with the fact that Apple is moving away from Intel CPU's and it's bye bye Hackintosh.

[Dale - TC]

You mean of course "to switch FROM Windows", correct?

[filmographie]

I've recently had several people urge me to try Resolve. Yes, I'm an old Fusion user from when it was an Eyeon product.

My problem with switching to DaVinci Resolve and Fusion on a Linux box isn't so much the video editing, audio editing and compositing applications as it is that I'd still need the CC subscription for the other Adobe tools that we regularly use - Photoshop, In Design, Dreamweaver, Acrobat Pro, etc. - and if these won't work with Linux then I'm still stuck with Windows or Mac.

If the new Adobe software for smartphones works with Android, then why not a full Linux port?

[Ussnorway]

filmographie  wrote

If the new Adobe software for smartphones works with Android, then why not a full Linux port?

because nobody put money into making Linux port a thing

Apple Mac and Microsoft Windows are major world players while [next to that] Linux is run by a few old guys in their basement... its nice that you have a hobby mate

[Abambo]

MacOS is a Unix kernel... but the CC software does not run under Unix! Because there is a difference...

[Dale - TC]

Oh, so you mean if I go down to Canonical or Red Hat (which is now I-B-FREAKIN-M!) headquarters, I should look for a basement.  Got it.

[Dale - TC]

Not to mention all the plugin and helper software like SmartSound, Red Giant, etc. are not made for Linux either.  Sad.

[Dale - TC]

Yet??  Accidentally let something slip there?

[Dale - TC]

Better than GIMP?

[lukes5815886]

GREAT NEWS!!!

adobe is talking to us!

go to the link blow and vote for Linux support and leave a comment

Yes, please support Linux. This would be a huge milestone. Thanks... – Adobe video & audio apps

[richarda89707798]

I would like to know how to UNINSTALL Creative Cloud from Linux Ubuntu.

[Justan]

Adobe - the writing is on the wall. I’ve been a Windows user since 3.11 but it’s over.

Since Windows 10 Microsoft has become a malware and spyware company.

I’ve been using Adobe products since before they acquired Macromedia but the death of Windows is inevitable.

[dodancs]

Please Adobe. Make it happen. The sole reason for why noone really complains about no Linux version about your products is that it is just not pronounced so much.

It is definitely needed, or welcome, as so many companies could switch to Linux.

There are many advantages of using Linux - no need for paying tens of thousands for Windows licenses, using the same equipment while reaching greater performance since Linux is consuming much less unnecessary resources like CPU power and other. There is also no need to go the so much more expensive way and buying Macs.

It makes a lot of sense to port CC to Linux. I would also much appreciate it, because the only thing holding me back from switching to pure Linux in my workflow is that I pay for CC which is not available on the platform yet. Otherwise, all other tools I use work on Linux nicely.

I am sure that there are so many hitches to overcome when porting the whole suite to Linux, but in a few years it will be worth the struggle and resources spent.

Please make it happen! So many people are looking forward to it!