Adobe, Linux Support, and the Linux Foundation.

[gai.ra.III]

While generally I've only lurked the Adobe forums I've finally worked up guts to post this. I also know that about every 1-2 months this question is asked but I think it deserves a another go around.

My premises is this:

Adobe joined the Linux Foundation in 2008 for a focus on Linux for Web 2.0  Applications like Adobe® Flash® Player and Adobe AIR™. Currently Adobe holds a silver membership status with the Linux Foundation. So why in the world do they not have any Creative Cloud Programs available in Linux without the need for WINE and other such workarounds. I think it's a sucky move to support the Linux Foundation and use Linux in the back-end while not doing anything to support actual Linux users who have for at least a decade requested Adobe desktop products on Linux. Sure it's going to take a lot of manpower, financial resources, etc. But to truly support Linux and the Linux Foundation I think it's necessary that y'all do make things like Photoshop and Lightroom available for the Linux desktop. In any regards the wider Linux community would most likely help with testing and debugging programs. We're used to it.

[AxelMatt]

Adobe CC for Linux - this theme is dicussed for years and years. But nothing happens.

Adobe has no plan to support Linux, not in the past, not now and probably not in the future either. Your petition won't change that either. 

In my opinion, Linux is also not really suitable. There to much different Linux derivatives. If Adobe supports one (if its possible) then users of other Lunix derivatives demand that their version is also supported. This will be a huge expense that can no longer be realized economically.

https://community.adobe.com/t5/get-started/adobe-when-will-you-give-us-creative-cloud-on-ubuntu-linu...

https://community.adobe.com/t5/get-started/creative-cloud-for-linux-ubuntu/td-p/4407103?page=1

https://community.adobe.com/t5/get-started/roadmap-for-adobe-creative-cloud-linux-support/td-p/83462...

[luca73]

https://www.change.org/p/adobe-systems-make-adobe-cc-run-natively-on-linux-platforms
here's an oppoturnity to make that change.

[luca73]

it's never too late in my opinion.

https://www.change.org/p/adobe-systems-make-adobe-cc-run-natively-on-linux-platforms

[luca73]

I agree ...

https://www.change.org/p/adobe-systems-make-adobe-cc-run-natively-on-linux-platforms

[juanjoseluisgarcia]

Despite having the same UI and the same workflow, kudos to Adobe, the UI part is platform dependent. Adobe on macOS only exists because of the personal push of Steve Jobs with Adobe and Apple helped there, and it has not been without rough patches. First, they used codewrecks, then they had to switch to Xcode to provide a universal app on Intel, then they had to switch to cocoa and all of that with C/C++, not objectiveC or Swift. The bottom line is that it takes a lot of effort for Adobe to open to a new platform. They need to test that every single workflow works the same and flawlessly and the UI is the same. Linux has a very little market share in comparison to Windows or Mac and Photo artists tend to work on Mac or Windows because they also have more tools. I came here today because I Googled if hey had done it already. It seems not and maybe they will never will. I wish they did but I understand why they are not doing it.

[A*&b%]

Try this:

https://github.com/corbindavenport/creative-cloud-linux/

[ej73]

The potential user base for Linux is extremely small compared to Windows and Mac.

It make very little sense for Adobe to do it.

Adding a Linux version will mean their developers will need to support 3 almost completely separate code bases instead of 2.

In order to do this, Adobe would need to either...

1. Reduce their profitability.

2. Reduce the frequency of updates across all versions.

3. Increase the cost of the subscription to offset their increased development cost.

None of these things seem like a good idea to me.

[shadow07]

Linus Torvalds explaining why it's a nightmare to develop for Linux (about 4:30 minutes in).

The fact is, no SDK, no way to develop binaries that work across hundreds of distros, etc. mean Linux isn't ready. You can't publish something like a .dmg or .exe for Linux and expect it to work 10 years from now, or even tomorrow. Legacy support with the will and resources to keep anything working that can't simply be recompiled for whatever changes they make on critical parts of the OS simply aren't there. It wouldn't be developing for Linux, but developing for Linux x, y, z, etc. things like Snap are starting to show up, but I'm still seeing even open source software snaps break, so it's just a hack fix on top of the hack fix that is the package management system. Complain to your distro and the Linux community that Linux desperately needs a real SDK and to take legacy binary compatibility seriously; instead of complaining to compaines that don't provide Linux versions of their software. Until Linux starts taking 3rd party software support seriously, it's just not worth developing for. (I mean Torvalds himself not being able to properly package a binary application for Linux says a lot.)

[ls_rbls]

This is very good info. Thanks for sharing.

To fully compliment what you're sharing I may have to add that there is also lot of misunderstanding about copyright software and to what extent it could be fully supported in an open source platform that is solely focused on a copyleft-only approach.

If you're 

[Ryonm]

Hello,

I know this is a sensitive topic in the Linux / Adobe community. But it has been a long time since we talked about it. But I would really love to see Adobe CC support on Linux. I am a fullstak web developer / designer and I just want to develop on my pc in Linux, and to be able to design stuff in Linux with Adobe XD, and using Photoshop. Adobe premiere pro I also use a lot. I know there are free alternatives, but I love the Adobe products that you can easily collaborate with your team. For people saying that it is not worth it for Adobe because the numbers don't add up, that's just not true.

1. 25.3% of professional developers used Linux in 2018.
2. 36.7% of the websites with known operating systems use Linux.
3. 54.1% of professional developers use Linux as a platform in 2019.
4. 83.1% of developers say Linux is the platform they prefer to work on.

I know this post propably doesn't change a lot, but I have a small hope they will finally add support and make lots and lots of people really happy.

p.s.

(I already did a feature request)

[Kanikas]

Adobe Creative Cloud does not support Ubuntu/Linux. 

Please see the minimum system requirements needed to use Creative Cloud:

https://helpx.adobe.com/in/creative-cloud/system-requirements.html

Thanks 

Kanika Sehgal 

[Tacafy大尉]

Ryonm, good morning.
As you can see, this community is a user community. Ordinary users also view and reply.
If you've already submitted a feature request, unfortunately, the community can't hope for more.
Certainly other people should have been calling for Linux support before, so please see this conversation.

https://community.adobe.com/t5/download-install/adobe-cc-on-linux/m-p/11114983?page=1

[SrMizuki]

Not to say that  I would count as "many people" but, I'm a windows user just because I cant use Photoshop and Illustrator on Linux, so I tend to agree with you.

[Nancy OShea]

As of 2020, Adobe currently supports the following devices and operating systems.

DESKTOP APPS

Windows (Win7 and Win10)

Mac (Sierra, High Sierra, Mojave, Catalina)

MOBILE APPS

iOS

Adobe mobile apps support iOS 9 and later running on iPad Pro, iPad 2 and later, iPhone 4s, 5, 5s, 5c, 6, 6S, 6 Plus, 6S Plus, 7, 7 Plus, and iPod Touch 5th Generation.

Android

Adobe mobile apps support phones running Android 4.1.x and later.

ADOBE FRESCO (iOS 12.4+ and Win10, 1809+)

• iPad Pro (all models)
• iPad Air (3rd generation)
• iPad (5th and 6th generation)
• iPad mini (5th generation)
• Microsoft Surface Pro 4
• Microsoft Surface Pro 5
• Microsoft Surface Pro 6
• Microsoft Surface Pro 7
• Microsoft Surface Book 1
• Microsoft Surface Book 2
• Microsoft Surface Book 3
• Microsoft Surface Studio 1
• Microsoft Surface Studio 2
• Microsoft Surface Go
• Microsoft Surface Go 2
• Wacom Mobile Studio Pro
• HP ZBook Studio x360 G5 (2020 Model)
• HP Spectre x360 Convertible 15-eb0xxx(2020 Model)
• HP ENVY x360 Convertible 15-ed0xxx (2020 Model) 
• HP ENVY x360 Convertible 15m-ed0xxx (2020 Model) 
• HP ZBook x2 G4 (2020 Model: enable hybrid graphics)
• HP Pavilion x360 Convertible 14-dh1xxx. (2019 Model)
• HP Pavilion x360 Convertible 14-dh2xxx (2020 Model)
• HP Pavilion x360 Convertible 14-dw0xxx (2020 Model | Intel i7 processor) 
• HP Pavilion x360 Convertible 14m-dw0xxx (2020 Model | Intel i7 processor)
• Dell XPS 15 9500
• Dell XPS 17 9700
• Select HP ZBook workstations

[Guest]

Found that out the hard way ended up cancelling after switching to Linux 😂 With the amount of developers and web and ui/ux designers currently on Linux and increasingly opting for Linux over windows, are there any future plans for cc on Linux?

[Vakont]

I've been a subscriber on the Adobe Suite for some time now, but I've also been a Linux user for much longer. The case of the low market share nowadays is merely an excuse. There's a lot of people who dual-boot with Windows, but it's the Microsoft OS that captures the statistics and registers those systems as Win platforms. Last April the market share of Linux systems jumped close to 5% globally, not including the non-registered systems. Heck, even my tech-illiterate sibling is running Linux Mint.

The only reason I'm using Windows right now is because of the Adobe Suite and a little bit because of Office 365. However, the moment there is a Creative Cloud on Linux, it's a permanent bye-bye for Windows. I'm really tired of having a 15" Surface Laptop 3 and getting blue screens of death while writing a document. It's ridiculous. The level of stability and speed the Linux OS provides is simply without comparison to the Microsoft systems. None.

Just as an FY, I just did a simple performance comparison for a 550 file copy, about half a gig in both Windows and Ubuntu Studio. The former took 5 seconds, while the latter copied everything the moment I clicked on the "paste" command. Both systems ran on NVme drives. There's a reason why serious VFX facilities demand knowledge of Linux. And soon my team and I will be building such a facility with several licenses. The price tag is not an issue there, but the ability to work is. As you can guess, all systems will be running Linux. If not Premiere, then Davinci Resolve. If not After Effects, then Nuke.

[Vinci Andrés]

Queremos Adobe en Linux. Yo estoy hasta la coronilla de Windows. 

[vaughngrisham]

I have been a CC subscriber for 3 years. I would very much like to leave Windows for Ubuntu. Please give us the freedom to continue our memberships on Linux. 

[SilenceSound]

I'm a Mac and Adobe user from ages (I'm a graphic designer with 20+ years of professional career on my back) but I'd really appreciate the possibility to have Adobe CC on Linux too since Windows is not a viable solution for me in ANY case.
A lot of people who cannot afford (or do not want to use) Apple devices would happily subscribe to CC on a Linux platform. For example I'd like to buy a 15" convertible pc (nothing similar on Mac universe at the moment, and the iPad pro is still not a computer --> different OS, different screen sizes from what I would love) but I'm not making the move because I hate the idea of working on a Windows machine. Plus on Windows CC has a lot of troubles with Wacom, WinInk and so on.

Guys at Adobe... really... loads od people is asking from so long and we're in 2020. A lot of pro users will gladly use your product on Linux. 

For Linux lovers and Adobe users: shall we start a mass petition? 😉

[tommy101588]

😀

[bBrain]

It's 2020, like why no linux support already. Good grief. 

[Guest]

Just checked it out on youtube. 

Making placed images smart objects already makes it better than gimp and it looks super I intuitive. I'm gonna try and update my illustrator svg portfolio with it and export as PDF... Fingers crossed haha thanks for the link!

[ls_rbls]

Anyone who has worked (or currently work) for gigantic corporations will understand why.

When you watch documentaries like "Super Size Me", and "Super Size Me 2"  it all makes sense.

Research more about "blackballing". 

If you ever had or run a medium size or small size business you won't stand a chance of surviving  in this game.

I see people talking about two major players all the time when in fact is not just two software companies; it is also whoever is in bed with them too (government, pahrmaceutical, tobbacco , educational institutions, mainstream media, marketing and advertising giants, and the list goes on).

On top of that, also research about about 9 Eyes and 14 Eyes. See what really happens between your ISP's and whatever you so called secured VPN service is all about.

As a matter of fact, I would say people are lucky to still have a webchat that somehow keep all of us under  the impression that one can speak freely and promote Linux like if your own personal life won't get affected.

Put Linux in your resume and see what happens in job interviews. See if you really gonna be hired that quickly , unless you mix it with some other flashy  cloud product names like Sharepoint, Azure,...yari yara, blassi blassi.

In short, 20 years ago my own relatives and acquaintances used to mock my inclination to support Linux and the Open Source movement.

And 20 years later, now Google has their own Linux kernel which actually support Creative Cloud apps . They only support ARM  architechture with their Android OS.

And Android OS, and even CrhomeOS  are forks of the Open Source Android xf86 project, which has ISO images available for different type of PC desktop architechtures that you cam install in old and new hardware.

I've also been reading  a lot of the Adobe Acrobat SDK documentation and you would be surprised how much Linux support is actually documented there for developers.

Is all a matter of time until some sort of event make people realize they had enough and start rioting in a  "Linux Lives Matter" type of fashion.

For those of you who have struggle finding a job that only deals with Linux, I would openly say that is kind of discriminatory if you think about it. Which is ridiculuous because thanks to learning Linux I've become better in Windows and unix-like OSs. Not the other way around.

[Ussnorway]

"Linux Lives Matter"

love it 😉

[wsciaroni]

Are you listening to our voices yet? It's 2020 and we want Linux support.  We're even willing to PAY YOU FOR IT.