Subscription cost increasing AGAIN

sunnya32000603  wrote I think we have to think about Adobe alternatives as they increase their price very frequently. It's killing our pocket.

Since the introduction of CC I've seen one price increase of the $-price. There may be local price fluctuations due to devaluations, but nothing influenced by Adobe.

There was some shouting a few months ago, because Adobe tested locally a change of availability of the Photography plan. That has been retired so the Photography plan is still available for 10$/month.

B_Taylor  wrote I will cancel my Photography Plan subscription if it doubles. I use Photoshop about twice a year anyway. If I can find something close to Lightroom in power and cataloging, I will change, otherwise, I'll buy the standalone version of LR.

Currently the Photography plan is still at about 10$/10€. There are no plans that I have knowledge of that this will change. However there is a discussion currently going on here: Where is the 20Gb Photography Plan?

My personal feeling: There is, however, a tendency to move to the cloud model (so having the pictures loaded up to the cloud). I have around 3Tb of picture data in constant expansion. I use Photoshop and I would love to keep the possibility to edit with Photoshop. That is currently not possible with Lr -- the cloud based Lightroom.

professional "level design" software - 't was a words pun. I had hoped the three emoticons would have conveyed the joke better.

Aside from the pun, I am glad to see that you put a qualifier in your statement. Adobe is indeed king of the graphic design software market, though not nearly so much in other creative markets. Web, Game, Video, Film, 3D, 2D animation, digital painting,... As you said, Adobe's products play a role in these markets, but are hardly "the best". In some of these Adobe's products have a marginal presence (Web, 3D, Games), in others more capable industry level products prevent Adobe from dominating.

I would have to disagree that the game design market is niche: compare the US game market revenue of ~17 billion dollars to the ~9 billion dollars US graphic design services revenue (2015-2016). Games is by far a larger world-wide market.

Anyway, it is quite possible (and even preferable in a number of cases) to remove Adobe software from your pipeline, and be regarded as a creative professional. Depends on the job and market which you happen to work in. Some of the software out there puts Adobe's efforts to shame.

Guessing that the increase has to do with continued weakness of the Australian dollar, unfortunately... From looking at a chart, the value relative to the US Dollar is near a 10-year low.

When Creative Cloud was first introduced in 2011 and went on sale in 2012, the AUD was worth over US$1.00. Currently the AUD/USD exchange rate is the lowest since that time. If Adobe doesn't periodically adjust the AUD pricing, then their net sales (always denominated in USD) would decline substantially.

Anyway, that's likely what explains it. If you have any questions or comments, here is how to get in touch with Adobe Support directly:

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It's not that it is really cheap, but compared to the upgrade prices we paid, the new pricing structure is competitive. It even allowed us to "upgrade" 3 licenses of different design suites to the all apps increasing effectively the possibilities to our people. And we added easily 2 licenses, because the monthly payments did not shock the same managers that at the time refused the acquisition of the perpetual licenses.

If you are a hobbyist and you where used to upgrade each 20 years only, then it is expensive indeed. But you can take the subscription on the month. Doing work for your club? Take the subscription for a month or two and the brochure is done and printed.

laduck  wrote Couldn't there be a bundle for us? Couldn't there be an option to lower our cost if we agree to fewer or no updates?

There is... it’s called all apps. No need to choose between the programs, you get all in one basket.

You are doing your math: 2540 USD for 4 years. That’s less then we paid each 4 years in upgrade costs. And we can do the upgrades at our pace, the users get every app and they do not need to choose... And because it is cheap we added 50% licences to our pool.

I know, it’s hard for people not working at a professional level but the tools are professional tools and they are good. Sometimes there is a flaw in and Adobe then needs to work hard because all the users paying on the month want to get their software working.

If there would be a 3 out of all the apps bundle, people would rant why there isn’t a 4-products bundle. Or a 2 products bundle, for those that use only 2 products.

And then there are those who do not want to use the cloud. Or who do need only 50Gb or those who need 300Gb.

And not to forget those who use only RGB pictures and do not do CMYK. Why offereing a CMYK workflow?

Adobe has taken a wise choice. You get the all apps for 50USD per month. It’s cheap for the level of programs you get. For those 50USD you can use your 3 applications and as a bonus, yoou have 17+ in addition. You will not use them all. Animation may be to complex for you, Dreamweawer may be less design oriented then you need, XD could be much design oriented.

If you do it as a hobby, either put the money in it, like you do when going to the gym or buy a substitution product as you could buy a hometrainer. If you do use the programs for a living you will be better off than before.

This is a quite fruitless discussion, as the subscription model is quite successful. There was only one price increase since its existance. Its, however, a different discussion if a price is correct or to high. I still own an iPhone 6+.There is no relation between a telephone and the software system. Do not compare Apple with Adobe. Apple is very often a « I want it » phenomena as Adobe is a « I need it » situation.

But anyway prices are not decided on an engineering level, and as this discussions are good for a while, arguments wear out.

Adobe is successful. As long as Adobe is successful Adobe will not change the strategy. And this is a purly commercial decision.

franchescao77442882  wrote QuarkExpress is very similar to InDesign. QuarkExpress is offering half price off for all customers switching from InDesign and it’s a perpetual license!  I have to switch since we can’t do offline deployment.

QuarkXpress was the market leader before. They lost market share because of their expensive license policy and their slowness for implementing new technology. Good luck if you changed. I'm sure you can do great work in QuarkXpress.

However, Adobe allows offline and on-line deployment.

I suppose you add a promotional offer limited in time. The standard subscription price increased, but not that much.

Your CS6 license is still valid, if you did not sell off the software and license.