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pziecina
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October 18, 2017
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Dw 2018, well not quite, its the october update to 2017

  • October 18, 2017
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has anyone else noticed the announcements bar, it is for the October update to Dw 2017, so no big announcements -

https://forums.adobe.com/docs/DOC-8781

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    pziecina
    pziecinaAuthor
    Legend
    October 18, 2017

    well after 4 hours of use there are one or two positives and a lot of negatives.

    The positives are that I can actually use it, so the UI improvements both on a hi-dpi display and a normal hd, have proven positive, split screen, (2 monitor set-up) if you want it it does work, but not very well if like me you have both a 4k and an old hd display, (it appears to want all monitors of the same display resolution).

    As for everything else, I cannot find anything positive to say, so I think that says it all, (Brackets offers more for the coder).

    For the coder and the user wishing a more visual interface, my verdict would be that it is how 2017 should have been in alpha. It is without many features that one would expect for a program costing what Dw does, it has nothing new to offer and CS6 with some improvements to bring the code hinting etc up-to-date would have been better.

    Sorry to disappoint anyone hoping for more, or something innovative, it simply does not exist.

    Impressive_play01AC
    Inspiring
    October 18, 2017

    Is the first time that I see a software launch of a major upgrade with the unique new feature a "welcome screen" (at least for Mac users).

    I think it's a joke, cannot be true...

    pziecina
    pziecinaAuthor
    Legend
    October 18, 2017

    The problem with it is that they have forgotton what Dw is used for, and what it should be able to do.

    As i said it is now usable, with improvments in the ui usability and performance, but i found myself trying to find positives in actually using it and found none.

    • It has now fallen behind in what i would consider essential to be able to say it can be used to create full html 5 documents.
    • It does include code hinting for css grid layouts, but whomever tested it has never created a css grid layout for use on multiple viewports, and anything that was not css 2.1, is still a token effort.
    • Code hinting for all the modern js api's is patchy, with some included, but most not.
    • Nothing for those requirering to create a modern rwd using Dw's css designer is included, (may as well ditch the feature) and why bother with 'extract' if it is to become a code environment.
    • Never ever try to use it with a remote repository, or with none local file references, (unless it is via git).
    • Debugging is none existent, so php, (and all those other server languages it says it supports) cannot be used beyond simple code.
    • You require at least another program, (for the main work) in order to develop browser based applications successfully, and forget about device specific apps.
    • If you do not use the workflow they, (or someone who has never worked in web development) thinks you should, then it is just another useless program taking up disk space.

    It is obvious to me that it has been created for a specific group, but that group is not a web developer, not a designer who wishes to code, and certainly not someone creating anything beyond a basic web site.

    I could excuse all the above if they had not spent so much wasted time adding pre/post-processor support, or adding more than git push/pull. those are obviously designed to give the impression of Dw being a forward looking product, but all they do in the end is prove they do not know what is required, so they added them thinking it looks modern.

    Teodor K
    Participating Frequently
    October 18, 2017

    Well, honestly what have you really expected?

    Nothing has changed in DW for the past few years.

    I remember talking to the DW dev team back in 2015, on Adobe MAX and back then they said "We are currently working on making DW hi-dpi screens compatible"

    And now that is what is new in DW (after at least 2 years of hard working!) and the so much needed new Welcome screen.

    Congrats!

    ---DMXzone | Wappler
    Impressive_play01AC
    Inspiring
    October 18, 2017

    Fortunately Wappler is coming...

    Impressive_play01AC
    Inspiring
    October 18, 2017

    pziecina  ha scritto

    so no big announcements

    We have the new welcome screen (for mac users)... I didn't think it took a year of development to do this but maybe it contains advanced tools

    pziecina
    pziecinaAuthor
    Legend
    October 18, 2017

    -Michele  wrote

    We have the new welcome screen (for mac users)... I didn't think it took a year of development to do this but maybe it contains advanced tools

    Don't get your hopes up

    Jon Fritz
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    October 18, 2017

    Preran​ the links in the announcement are pointing to the wrong location (chl-author-preview-corp.adobe.com).

    Preran
    Community Manager
    Community Manager
    October 18, 2017

    My bad completely. Will rectify that soon and let you know.

    Thanks,

    Preran

    Preran
    Community Manager
    Community Manager
    October 18, 2017

    I have updated the links in the announcement October 2017 release to Dreamweaver CC is here

    Apologize for the confusion.

    Thanks,

    Preran