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O/K, now we have a seperate discussion i am going to pose a question open to anyone but especially those who use extensions.
Instead of a simple master/detail set-up that uses ajax, how would an extension cope with the following, which is becomming a typical usage on larger e-comm sites, and one that we use in the app i work on -
The user selects the item, but instead of using ajax to insert the data in the current page a modal window opens showing all the details that would normally be seen on the detail page, complete with scroll bars if required.
To add to the above, any screen size below 9 inch, does not open a modal window, instead it inserts the data below the item selected, but does not show the full data which is still available via ajax using the detail/summary element.
BTW: I did the pdo with php 7 challenge in 39 seconds using cs6, and no 3rd party app. I did use my own pdo extension for this, so am i cheating 
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osgood_ wrote
How many ice-creams is it worth?
None, i know how to do it.
My point is that once something is required outside of the norm for an extension, framework or any pre-built template then the user has a problem if they do not know how the code works and more importantly how to modify it, and once one starts into css, javascript or server side code the modification often becomes difficult, (sometimes impossible) without documentation.
I do agree that extensions and bootstrap, (don't swear at me 
) do add value to Dw, but the inability of Dw to allow users to create not just what extensions and frameworks can do, but to expand and improve on them, is slowly killing Dw, as too many users are now becomming code illiterate and completely reliant on extensions and frameworks for everything. This is NOT the extension creators fault, as they like anyone else are simply making a living by filling in what Dw is missing.
This is now being echoed in forum posts when users say they will post code elsewhere, and members of a certain forum, (something to do with new versions) and some acp's think no code problems should be posted here, probably explains the fall off in posts.
EbaySeller wrote
Others would likely say the opposite.
Number of views of the OT posts would suggest otherwise. If they only got 10 views I wouldnt bother so stop personally fueling the flames if you dont want it to continue.
EbaySeller wrote
you decided to undermine moderation and post a new OT for.
The thread was locked. It was necessary to respond to anotther poster who threw out a challenge.
EbaySeller wrote
Do you think the OP of the topic you hijacked will come back to ask opinion of you or others that went off topic on their question? Not likely!
The OP had already recieved the information they required. If regaulars then had differing opinions those views are shared, which may or may not be helpful for others or just plain entertaining in what is a generally a dull forum. You of course go out of your way add to the dullness - you must have taken a degree in the subject .
EbaySeller wrote
People other than the regular users that post here all day, everyday quickly realize this is not a forum to learn anything, but rather a forum to read opinions of 5 people that should be discussing their personal, inexperienced opinions in their own little chatroom.
Tell that to those that have recieved help here over the years. How many have you actually provided any useful help to, very few?
EbaySeller wrote
Well guess what: the Dreamweaver forum rarely discusses DW topics either!
Shows how much interset you show in the forum. If you care to look at the posts the majority ARE DW topics.
EbaySeller wrote
pziecina wrote
Unlike ebaysellers opinion, creating a new discussion to continue is an acceptable method in this forum, and had someone asked branching the old off-topic posts to a new discussion was also possible.
PS os: your off topic discussions get lots of views because you and the small handful of others that post all day, every day on this forum look and reply to the same thread 150 thousand times. You think anyone other than you and 3 other people are looking at your discussions then you're in a fantasy world. Perception is one's reality though. If you think a lot of people are looking then in your little world it's true!
True but even the 5 of us would be hard press to get it up to 700+ views inside a day or two, as in the case of the Bootstrap css thread 
That's like 140 views each, even you cant believe that.
Riiiight
You have visited this thread at least 10 times in the last hour. I imagine that you reload the page over and over to build your post count ego to justify your ridiculous posts so you probably visit more like 50 times an hour. You also spend over 14+ hours a day on this forum. So it's not unbelievable that you and others much like yourself would visit one thread in excess of 140 times. At least I know that you can do math! I underestimated you.
PS pziecina​ is this off topic thread going to be branched into another 5 threads like I requested? Not sure what the topic of this thread is. Judging from the title I was never sure since I didn't read the other thread that was apparently viewed over 700 times by less than 5 people. 
EbaySeller wrote
Riiiight
You have visited this thread at least 10 times in the last hour. I imagine that you reload the page over and over to build your post count ego to justify your ridiculous posts so you probably visit more like 50 times an hour. You also spend over 14+ hours a day on this forum. So it's not unbelievable that you and others much like yourself would visit one thread in excess of 140 times. At least I know that you can do math! I underestimated you.
Now you are clutching at straws. People say and think the most riduculous things when they are pushed into a corner and have nothing left to use as serious answer.
If you want a serious answer to your pathetic reasoning. The reason that the forum is a dump (your words, not mine) is because the original News Group became this forum. Not sure you were even out of diapers when that was around but when it was it attracted a wide spectrum of contributors from beginners to professionals and wasn't particularly DW centric. It attracted dozens of posts a day, including those which addressed DW issues, morning to night and beyond, unlike this forum which now averages no more than about 10 posts per day. Its not because of people like myself or the other 4 you mention, its because of lack of willingness or the lack of knowledge that others don't contribute, they just come and take or just lurk. That's ok but don't blame the handful that are largely keeping it going for its current state!
We might not be perfect, hell we arent but if we all went tomorrow the responsibilty is down to you and for all your big talk and large mouth I cant see you giveing up much of your time to help out and provide ongoing help when its most needed. Ok you pop in once every couple of weeks but maybe thats not enough to keeep a forum going.
There is no point trying to reason with two narrow minded individuals. This is what the DW forum represents now, unfortunately. That is why you're the only ones participating in the forum. Bottom line.
You really think there was over 700 unique visits to this discussion today?!? If you had an inclining into how to code then you'd know there's scripts that can do that. Ask over at SO sometime if you want to learn how to code 
until then just stick to the DW forum since that's where you're king of the hill. Soon you will all go where Ken Binney and Murray went and when that day soon comes this forum will be back to normal discussions. Until then we can only wait.
EbaySeller wrote
There is no point trying to reason with two narrow minded individuals. This is what the DW forum represents now, unfortunately. That is why you're the only ones participating in the forum. Bottom line.
You really think there was over 700 unique visits to this discussion today?!? If you had an inclining into how to code then you'd know there's scripts that can do that. Ask over at SO sometime if you want to learn how to code until then just stick to the DW forum since that's where you're king of the hill. Soon you will all go where Ken Binney and Murray went and when that day soon comes this forum will be back to normal discussions. Until then we can only wait.
If the forum had to rely on contributors with your attitude anytime soon sadly it WOULD already be a Dodo, period. Unfortunately for you, whilst I might drop out, I dont think the others you mention have any intention of doing so, your going to be waiting a very long time, enjoy. Now back to please your pay master (which I fortunately don't have to do) whilst I get some well earned sleep after another long day in the forum, 14+ hours according to you. At least I know that you CANT do maths! I over-estimated you.
McMorty wrote
Ok "osgood_".
Look at the DW forum home. I don't have enough digits to count the number of anti-DW or anti-bootstrap discussions (by you and a small number of other) there.
Fake my eye. It's a known issue.
Here's a suggestion for you - don't read the threads you don't agree with, especaily where I'm involved, because you are obviously not going to agree any time soon, which is really just fine. How easy is that, unless of course you actually enjoy reading them, which I think you almost certainly do. You're like the person who shouts 'banish porn off the box' and is the first one to switch it on Oh boy I really do like this forum, sometimes. Now go back to DW and have fun with all those nice extensions, which you are obviously in desperate need of to be defending it and them so forthright. You are entilted to your opinions, maybe join in more instead of just lurking.
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