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davidb55476001
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December 17, 2017
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Looking for alternative products

  • December 17, 2017
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Our experience with Dreamweaver has gotten worse and worse over the years, so much so that we'd drop it in a heartbeat if ever we could find an alternative product.

We are also considering giving up our Creative Cloud unlimited licenses plan 😞

Especialy witht he last two versions of Dreamweaver we have had all sort of problems:

- frequent (very frequent) crashes

- inaccurate copy&paste

- even Save command that doesn't save

Adobe has been inflating their products with all sort of new functionalities, while letting the core functionalities degrade unbearably.

We are presently running on a HP Windows 10 machine and on a MacBookPRO on MacOs 11.6

Any advice?

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    Correct answer Nancy OShea

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    Nancy OShea
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    Nancy OSheaCommunity Expert
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    December 17, 2017

    As a fellow CC product user, my only advice is drop back to a previous version. 

    I am currently using CC 2017 without major issues.   2018 had too many quirks.

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
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    osgood_
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    December 17, 2017

    Wappler, by DMXZone is a new product currently in beta trials but as l understand should reach public beta at some stage early next year.

    I think you will find that most products out there have their ups and downs. DW, unless you are a pure coder is currently on a par with most.

    For  coders

    Atom, Sublime, VC Code,  Brackets , all are poor in my opinion especially if a simple way of producing reusable code snippets is a must have, they all bar none fail in this respect therefore to me they are all unusable. I dont quite know why they are so popular, maybe the free price tag is an attraction.

    For non coders

    Pinegrow is a wysiwyg editor , personally  l have never tried it but its one that is mentioned  from time to time as being a contender if a more visual experience is important.

    Komodo, Ultra Edit, maybe Web Storm. There are dozens to try but few, if none, that actually deliver. Its a case of finding the best of a very poor bunch.

    I understand your problem, l am currently undecided as to what editor to use as they all seem to be off the pace, redundant, bloated or just not updated frequently.

    rayek.elfin
    rayek.elfin
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    December 17, 2017

    osgood_  wrote

    For  coders

    Atom, Sublime, VC Code,  Brackets , all are poor in my opinion especially if a simple way of producing reusable code snippets is a must have, they all bar none fail in this respect therefore to me they are all unusable. I dont quite know why they are so popular, maybe the free price tag is an attraction.

    For non coders

    Pinegrow is a wysiwyg editor , personally  l have never tried it but its one that is mentioned  from time to time as being a contender if a more visual experience is important.

    Komodo, Ultra Edit, maybe Web Storm. There are dozens to try but few, if none, that actually deliver. Its a case of finding the best of a very poor bunch.

    I understand your problem, l am currently undecided as to what editor to use as they all seem to be off the pace, redundant, bloated or just not updated frequently.

    Atom has an Asteroids add-on, which must explain its popularity ;-P

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    All joking aside, I think it has to do with that all of them cater to specific coder crowds, while DW is too neurotic for most nowadays. Adobe didn't exactly help either - they don't really seem to know what to do with DW and the roadmap seems up in the air.

    Aside from that, DW just misses a lot of the functionality and customization options that other coding environments have on offer. So many different workflows out there nowadays, and Atom, Sublime, etc. have vibrant communities catering for all kinds of workflows. You could argue (web) development is made more complicated than it needs to be, of course. But at least the competitors allow for almost any kind of coding workflow, and automate it (for the most part).

    Dreamweaver, in the meantime, is sort-of stuck. At least, that is how I see it. None of my students or colleagues will even consider touching DW. It is either not taken seriously, or not even considered in the first place, or both. It's viewed as a "has-been". And when professionals deride DW in front of beginners, well... It doesn't help of course. I think Dreamweaver has a brand/reputation problem, and it's going to be tough to convince coders otherwise.

    Yeah, the final nail in the coffin: the costly rental-only option doesn't help either. Why keep paying monthly for a code editor when (arguably superior)  IDEs and editors out there exist often for free? The re-usable snippet editor in DW is nice, but hardly enough to deter anyone from using other editors (which have snippet options as well - perhaps not as usable).

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      davidb55476001Author
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      December 18, 2017

      Tried most (not all) of the suggested alternatives, with no much luck.

      When the workflow is heavily code based, DW is utterly pointless. But there are cases, like when prepping newsletters, where a wysiwyg / graphic approach is after all more practical. So far I haven't found anything that could really replace DW for that, despite its many limitation.

      Now however it's really working so badly for us that there is no more tradeoff

      Maybe we should just go back a lot with versions. 2017 was constantly crashing on us.

      BenPleysier
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      BenPleysierCommunity Expert
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      December 17, 2017

      This is an Adobe sponsored forum. If you want alternatives, then Google the subject.

      Merry Chrismas and a Happy New Year.

      Wappler is the DMXzone-made Dreamweaver replacement and includes the best of their powerful extensions, as well as much more!
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      davidb55476001Author
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      December 17, 2017

      Mine is somewhat a provocation - thought it would be quite clear: above all, I'd like the products I pay good money for, to work properly. Is anybody able to help / so something / make them work properly?

      Because we pay them as if they are good.

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