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No ASP/ASP.Net support in Dreamweaver CC

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June 19, 2013
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Another Disabled or depreicated 'feature'. No ASP of ASP.Net support in DW CC.

At: * Vista/Windows 7: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Dreamweaver CC\Configuration\DisabledFeatures there are a some .mxp files to add these functions back.

Took the steps required to convert mpx to ZXP.

http://www.projectseven.com/products/cloud-install.htm

The extension, ASP_JS_Support.mxp, once converted throws an error. It is searching for files in directories that do not exist. There is Menus.xml file in the /configuration/Menus/ directory, the the 'element' is not in the file at all. See image below.

This is my most required function.

When we open a new file, many file type starter pages are no longer available including ASP, Cold Fusion etc. Are these going to be added back?

Add my voice to legions of others showing Our disappointment with DW CC's lack of support for developers. CC is simply a CSS, HTML WYSYWIG editor now. We should not have to load extensions to the primary program we use to develop our websites. While HTML 5 and CSS can develop great sites, the fact is there are millions of websites that function perfectly without these and will continue to do so.

IMHO Adobe focused completely on new technology, which is not even supported fully by browsers, and ignored technologies that are in use today. You missed by a mile and I regret purchasing a Cloud Account just to see what a drop shadow or curved border looks like in live view.

Support? Do I even need to go there?

I had such hopes for this version of DW, looks like CS6 will remain my main program.

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Correct answer RobertoSonzogni

I solved this adding ".asp" to the "open in dreamweaver" in the preferences, but also configuring the site server model as "asp vbscript".

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kneidels

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Just started using CC2018

Even though an ASP page will open, I see we have lost code hinting and code formatting (coloring?) for VBscript/ASP

Anyone know how to get this back?

Thanks

Nancy OShea

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kneidels wrote
Just started using CC2018
Even though an ASP page will open, I see we have lost code hinting and code formatting (coloring?) for VBscript/ASP
Anyone know how to get this back?
Thanks

Yes. Revert to CS6 when you need to work with legacy sites.

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

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kneidels

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yeah, i have that. but would much rather use one app than maintain 2. Thanks

pavithram34195577

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It is really a great work and the way in which u r sharing the knowledge is excellent.

Thanks for helping me to understand basic concepts. As a beginner in dot net programming your post help me a lot.Thanks for your informative article.

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Kannan Krish

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When new version come to market, we expects more thing. The server side working is very important for developer, Dreamweaver moto is help to cover designers also. So they want to give more importance to server side scripts. But they really remove that options In Dreamweaver CC versions. I am really a starter in Dreamweaver, I am happy to work with that. They want to add server side scripting support to next future versions and also improve the keyframe animation stuff to easy. Thank you.

Nancy OShea

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Dreamweaver is a coding tool. If you have the necessary coding skills, you can manually code whatever you need in DW.

SERVER BEHAVIORS:

ASP Classic is no longer supported by Microsoft. It was replaced in 2008 with ASP.net. Today only 1 out of 20 websites still use ASP Classic scripts.

If you work with PHP, Dreamweaver has excellent code hinting and auto-completion features.

The server behaviors were removed from DW in 2013 because the code is outdated and not secure. It should not be used for current projects. Old MySQL connections will fail to work on servers running PHP 7 or higher.

There are commercial extensions available for developers who need database bindings panels. 2 such products are available from Web Assist and DMX Zone.

It's very unlikely that DW will re-introduce database bindings panel because that burden has been picked up by the above extensions.

I would like to see better support for Keyframe animations, too. Maybe in the next release. We'll have to wait and see.

Nancy O.

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

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michaelh7100293

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I have been a fan of Dreamweaver even before it was known as Dreamweaver. I started of with it when it was Drumbeat 2000.

The issue for us that are Web Developers vs the Web Designers is we have for many years had the use of Dreamweaver that has such simple features to add complex database interactions to ASP, CFM and PHP sites.

I have found it the absolute best product and I have developed several complex applications for use in corporate environments, all using Deamweaver. Companies like Interakt helped improve the functionality even further and the product was very robust in my opinion. Perhaps ASP and PHP and even Cold Fusion are not as robust as ASP.NET or even other options, but it worked and I was able to use the product with out having to be a OO based programmer. I dont know C, C++ or C# and I dont intend on going down that path 15 years later just so I can create data driven applications, that I have previously created in Dreamweaver MX and 8 with absolute ease.

It feels like Adobe have decided to reinvent the wheel and go back to more of a coding environment with HTML5 and CSS as the main features of DW CC. I have evolved beyond coding and anyone who feels the need to handcode is wasting their time unless they are doing it for bigger systems like WordPress or Joomla or Drupal etc. handcoding individual applications or websites is too time intensive, unless those handcoders can tell me they are making $200k+ a year.

It is disappointing that I cant build my own apps in Dreamweaver as I once did. I used to have the options of ASP, ASP.NET, CFM, or PHP. I guess PHP is still in DW CC but I am not personally into PHP.

I do acknowledge that Microsoft has discontinued Classic ASP support years ago, but it still runs and is still of use in corporate environments where it can faciliate a business need and in alot of organisations, Windows Server is predominate and still can support ASP and ASP.NET. There is nothing limiting about ASP and MSSQL if you are a developer, it is very flexible and powerful. In fact I have rarely worked for organisations running anything else as the DB. I was even able to develop for Oracle databases using Dreamweaver.

To my current knowledge there is no equivalent to Dreamweaver 8 on the market. MS Visual Studio Web Designer is no where near as functional as what DW 8 was and is largely a coding tool. For true efficiency in Rapid application development, Dreamweaver was the best.

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GarthJones

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It is now June 2015 !!

I have been reading these comments of some 2 years ago and did not realize my issues - no ASP support any longer - was resinating that long ago. I just upgraded to CC recently and I must say - really disappointed. It is so Lame. SO it supports HTML5 - big deal.

All the real power of Dreamweaver is gone. I am now looking for a replacement to Dreamweaver. There is more to web sites than Wordpress and alike. Bad move Adobe.!!

LuisCarlos5046

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Pessoal, pra quem procura um substituto ao DW, vejam o novo Visual Studio Code que ainda não está 100% terminado, mas é bem funcional e tem muitas extensões. Trabalha com todo tipo de linguagem.

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MinerWilly

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I've always been a big fan of Adobe, but just recently I'm absolutely disgusted by their attitude.

I manage a small team of developers working in education, and because of this we've been using CS3 for some years. There has never been a need to upgrade due to the fact that we are constantly building to older standards for accessibility reasons. So, a couple of weeks ago all of our Adobe software ceased to function due to the ridiculous licensing issue that has blighhted everybody who made the mistake of buying Adobe products through package deals (in our case Web Standard). Basically this means that having spent thousands on software (albeit a few years ago), we are now left with a product that won't work at all. I don't recall the licensing information at the time stating that it was a time limited purchase, and considering the amount of money we paid I think it would be reasonable to assume we could continue to use it until hell froze over if we wanted to.

Anyway, with lots of important projects on the go we are left with the option of paying a subscription for every member of the team to join CC, or purchasing CS6 which is prohibitively expensive and pointless given that it's already been superseded. Since we had no warning that all of our Adobe software was going to spontaneously stop working, our only option with deadlines looming was to install the CC trial whilst we look for a better solution. Having done that we now find that we can't work with any of the many ASP.net sites that we have created over the last ten years!

Honestly Adobe, how can you go from leading the market with industry standard tools to ripping off small organisations who have paid for your products? We're not the only people who can't afford to wake up on any given morning and without warning pay a £5000 ransom so that we can replace purchased software that ran prefectly well the day before. To then find that the replacement software is not fit for purpose and is incapable of editing .net sites is just astonishing.

Adobe are now the kings of ransomware.

Zero out of ten for customer focus. This is an absolutely disgusting situation.

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osgood_

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MinerWilly wrote:
So, a couple of weeks ago all of our Adobe software ceased to function due to the ridiculous licensing issue that has blighhted everybody who made the mistake of buying Adobe products through package deals (in our case Web Standard).

I'm not aware that any past Adobe package stopped working?

Really.....is this true?

I don't think anyone has mentioned it in this forum.

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MinerWilly

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Yes, most people using the older packaged versions of Adobe products (in our case Web Standard CS3) have now found that the packages refuse to open, quoting some generic license issue which Adobe customer support are unwilling to discuss.

I spent forty five minutes on hold, only to be put through to somebody who could barely speak English, and be told that Adobe no longer support CS3 so my only option was to subscribe to CC. Very poor form.

A quick Google search will show that there are thousands of people complaining about the same issue, and Adobe have offered no working solution. However, it's a bit OT for this thread I guess.

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RobertoSonzogniCorrect answer

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I solved this adding ".asp" to the "open in dreamweaver" in the preferences, but also configuring the site server model as "asp vbscript".

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sfainc0110

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It's not working. It says "You cannot use Adobe Dreamweaver CC as an external editor. Please choose a diferent application." Are you using PC or Mac. I am on a Mac.

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kaylittlejohn

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I get this same error message when trying to add asp to the file types and programs.

I'm also not able to install the ASP_JS_Support extentions after I converted it - See the original post for all these replies. I receive this error:

None of the suggestions in these posts have worked for me. I have Adobe Design & Web Premium CS6 installed and the Adobe Creative Cloud. We have deployed Dreamweaver ASP Templates over the last year and half, through out our place of business. I still have the ability to edit asp templates and asp files by using Dreamweaver CS6, but Dreamweaver CC won't open them, it launches DW CS6.

One of our departments purchased Dreamweaver CC and they can edit their website files with it or even open an ASP file. We really need to get this to work for now. Has anyone been able to get this to work?

I'm using a MacBook Pro running 10.9 but the department that purchased Dreamweaver CC is running Windows 7 and there is No CS6 version installed.

We need to figure out how to make this work or come up with a good work around.

Has anyone got this to work?

Thanks in advance.

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anthem94298

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I was struggling with this issue myself. I just found an workaround that at least gets .asp and .aspx files to appear in the design view. Just go to Edit>Preferences>File Types/Editors. Then click the plus sign to add an extension, put in ".asp .aspx". Then hit the other plus sign to add an editor and browse to the dreamweaver.exe file. Hit "Ok" to save the changes.

Still no server behaviors, but at least I can edit legacy sites fairly easily. I'm using MS Visual Studio Express for Web (free) to build .net pages. That program has it's own set of quirks, but dropping in datasources, repeaters, etc is very easy. It doesn't do some important things as well as Dreamweaver - managing multiple sites easily, updating links when you move or rename a file, site-wide search and replace. It's tough to get away from the Dreamweaver workflow once you've become comfortable with it.

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AdamZ1977

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VS Express 2012 for Web does have site-wide find/replace. Hit Ctrl+Shift+H and you can choose to Find/Replace in open documents or the entire solution. It supports regular expressions, but I haven't completely figured out how that works yet and if it's comparable to Dreamweaver's variables.

For working with multiple sites at the same time, VS Express for Web supports multiple instances. Right click the icon in your task bar and then click "VS Express for Web". That will launch another instance of the application which you can use to open another website/solution. Repeat for as many sites as you want opened at the same time. I like that the recent list of projects is right there on the start up page. I also really like how each application instance is its own window. You can put one on each monitor or snap them to different sides of the screen and Alt+Tab between them just like anything else.

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anthem94298

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VS Express for Web does not allow me to search and replace a multi-line block of code, that's what sucks, unless I'm doing something wrong. It also doesn't give me a simple list of sites with an easy way to *switch* from one to another. I have to browse to find and open the solution files.

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sfainc0110

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Count me in. I just found out the hard way. All of my existing .ASP files stop uploading dependant files (including basic stuffs like images and css). Dreamweaver CC is totally removing the support for ASP (and CFM). Very disappointed. I need to go back to CS6 just for the sake of working with .ASP and .CFM files.

How I understand Adobe Dreamweaver's road map:

For ASP, use Microsoft product. For CFM, use Adobe ColdFusion Builder. Dreamweaver is staying away from proprietary formats.

Lon_Winters

Inspiring

The solution is simple, and doesn't require all that much more effort on Adobe's part.

Of alll the middleware technologies that have been around, it's come down to only two: PHP and ASP.NET. One isi open source, the other is proprietary. Keep PHP and keep up with PHP as it continues to develop. Forget the rest as part of the core program.

However, always keep the others as extensions from whatever version they may have been built with, but no earlier than CS4. That should cover all legacy sites. I could be wrong. But developers, if you're still using Colf Fusion or JSP or ASP (either script type), is there really an advantage here or is it becaase that's what you've always used, are most comfortable with, or perhaps all you know?

No disrepsoect intended, I may just be projecting. I held on to ASP for too long, and I rely a lot on third party extensions, even though I know the code pretty well. Even Microsoft itself long ago dropped classic ASP support and development, and my extension providers were moving away from it and dot-net as well. So I followed suit and went with PHP. A few years ago, PHP/MySQL perhaps could not hold up against the other tried and true solutions for performance and security, but, I'm pretty sure it's come a long way since then.

I still don't get why support for middleware has been discarded altogether. What am I missing - are dynamic sites being built with HTML, CSS and JS? AJAX? If so, point me towards a tutorial, because it's not built into DW.

Or what's going to happen is one of the primary extension providers will simply come out with their own editor, or we may even see a decent open source one out soon that supports extensions. If that happens, and the program is actually good, DW usage will fall. But so what? Adobe still has the monopoly on all the other CS products and we will still need to keep our subscriptions up to date.

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KirbyQ64

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Realy.... Really! Very short sighted!

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WiseyD203

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I love Dreamweaver, have used it for years for a lot of my front end web development and I work a lot with asp and asp.net technologies. Trying to work with some .asp files now and am really noticing the change. May have to start using expression studio. Shame

This was really short sighted on Adobes part.

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poirot

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Same here WiseyD203

I have been using dreamweaver for years strating with MX, and since I was on CS5, I thought... hum at 20.00 a month it could be a very good price to always get the latest version. So I downloaded the trial version of it. What was my suprise after starting it for the first time that there was no asp or aspx files. Si I said again hum.... I went and opened an asp files and it seem that the intellisense is still there, I did not go further, but as of this point I am very disapointed. Of course I WILL NOT get that subscription and will stick to CS5, Visual Studio 2010 - 2012 and Expression studio, all of the above can be free version also. Imagine free and doing what I need as opposed to NOT free and NOT doing what I need. The choice is OBVIOUS don't you think?

Everything I have developed in the past few years was originaly on Coldfusion and when they stop supporting it I went to asp. Now this is the second time I get f..ked by Adobe and had to go another way. First with CF and now with ASP. Like they say; Foll me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

So I guess this is the last time. Adobe I don't get the way you are thinking and you should probably ask your users before deciding for them. Just look at Microsoft and XBOX ONE and Windows 8. They listened and then they adjusted. Amybe you should do the same. Until the time you give us back asp and aspx, you can forget about me.

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