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Footnote duplication

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September 29, 2008
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Dear all,
Imagine I have the following text:
"Car XX was subject to test_1, test_2 and test_3. Car YY was only subject to text_1."
I want to place footnotes to describe in details what test_1, test_2 and test_3 is. If I go and do it in Frame, I will get 4 footnotes (after test_1, test_2, test_3 and test_1), where footnote 1 and 4 are the same. How can I make sure that footnote 1 and 4 point to the same piece of text and have the same number i.e.
"Car XX was subject to test_1(a), test_2(b) and test_3(c). Car YY was only subject to text_1(a)."
Letters in brackets are footnote references.
Any comments are more than welcome
Thank You everyone
Marek

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feknight8

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I've created the 2 footnote references as described here and in help. The first created using special->footnote. The second done as a cross reference (to the same footnote text). When the PDF is created, the second one (the cross reference) is a hot, clickable link to take me directly to the footnote text. The first is not. Nothing I've tried seems to make the first reference to a footnote (the one inserted using the footnote option) into a hot link.

Any ideas?

Barb Binder

Adobe Expert

X-refs have built in hyperlinks, but footnotes do not, nor do I know of any way to add a link to a footnote.

This would make a good feature request:

https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=newFeature

jaggedpeak

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That... is something I never noticed (that the original footnote is not a clickable link)... the funny thing is, just before I read this post, I came across that myself today :-)

Now... in the meantime, *if* it's important to you to have the footnote be a clickable link, you could do a bit of a kludge:

Add your footnote (or table footnote) as normal.
In *front* of the footnote, add your cross-reference to the footnote.
On the footnote (not the cross-reference), apply a character format where the Color is set to the background color of the area the footnote appears (in other words, the footnote will not be visible)
You might also want to apply a condition to the footnote, with the Color and Background set to different colors. Make sure Show/Hide Conditions is set to Show the condition name. While you're editing the doc, keep Show Condition Indicators selected (so that you can see the text). When you print your doc, deselect Show Condition Indicators (so it prints as it appears in step 3 above.
AND REALLY IMPORTANT.... make sure you *document* for yourself (or anybody else having to maintain the doc) how and why you did this, so you don't bang your head against the desk wondering where the footnote has disappeared to :-)

This works best for footnotes that appear at the 'end' a text string, since the 'hidden' character still takes up space. You could play with the character size (or other options) to make it occupy minimum horizontal space if it's an issue.

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_Marek_Hajduczenia_Author

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I did not have much time to relax I guess. I also started from "footnote" keyword and got dispirited by the large number of hits. The following attempts to narrow down the search did not work really well so I figured someone here might know the answer.
Thank You for Your time (and patience in reading the help)
Regards
Marek

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peter minneapolis

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You're welcome, Marek:

I found this topic by searching Help for footnote, which returns many items, which at first was overwhelming. After I relaxed, I found this topic is the second or third entry in the list.

HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

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_Marek_Hajduczenia_Author

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Thanks Peter,
that automates the process.
I feel ashamed not having looked in the help for this particular key word sequence ... seems so obvious yet I was looking for "multiple footnotes" and "replicate footnote" etc. which led me nowhere.
Once again, Thank You for Your time
Marek

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peter minneapolis

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Hi, Marek:

Have you looked at this topic in FM Help?

i Inserting more than one reference to a footnote

HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

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_Marek_Hajduczenia_Author

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Thank You Art for the explanation.
This is exactly the way I do it right now. I was hoping for some "magic" setting in Frame where I could actually select which footnote to replicate. Anyway, thank You for time and attention.
I will keep on working the way I am working right now
Have a good day
Marek

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Art Campbell

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OK, what I've done before is create a second footnote reference in text, pointing to the footnote in the footer.

Assuming that you footnote "(4)" duplicates (1), the way most style guides say to handle the footnotes is to have two references in text (or as many as you need in text) pointing to footnote (1).

Which means that you don't want to display a (4) in your text, you just want to put in a superscript (1) into the text passage in addition to the real footnote anchor. Readers will go to footnote text 1 from two points in the text, not just the automatically generated (1) footnote anchor.

So all you need to do is to type in the second (1) footnote reference in the text and set it to superscript. If you want to make it a hot link, you can use a hypertext anchor and link to the (1) footnote text at the bottom of the page.

Art

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_Marek_Hajduczenia_Author

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Hi Art,
could You clarify that a little bit ?
Thanks
Marek

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Art Campbell

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I'd try setting up a cross-reference from a dummy entry (4) to footnote text (1).

Art