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Inspiring
August 24, 2018
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How can I create an RGB PDF in FrameMaker 2019?

  • August 24, 2018
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In FM 2017 there was an option to choose RGB or CMYK in the PDF Settings. I can't find this setting in FM 2019 and my documents appear to be output as CMYK as the colours no longer look correct. The same file output as PDF from FM2017 with the option set to RGB looks correct in terms of the colour space.

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Correct answer Amitoj

Amitoj, thank you for the clarification.

I have understood:

1. I may define with Distiller a certain job option and yes this job option is shown as preset in the PDF related STS settings in FrameMaker. My tests show: I'll have to use the option "add PDF settings" in Distiller so that the job option is shown in FM PDF settings dialog.

2. FM uses standard, compatibility and image settings from the defined job option.

That's o.k. but I don't understand why you didn't implement a dialog similar to the one in InDesign for editing the PDF settings.

3. This dialog would make the process much clearer.
Only to show presets without explaining how to change them and not to explain what kind of values are taken from the (Distiller) job option makes the process quite unclear.

"For color space we have by default enabled to use AS-IS and not force fit and convert to a particular color profile."

And this is what I don't understand: this would be the best solution only if I could define my different color models in FrameMaker. But FrameMaker uses internally CMYK values only for colored FM objects. So we need a new color model in FrameMaker: that's what I expect from a professional software: my color model and my profile should be kept or converted under my control and yes typically "left unchanged" in the PDF and for me RGB is, of course, the most important color model. 

But as we need a CMYK2RGB conversion for FM colors in the converted PDF this is missing  in the new process. You already explained you will change that in the next update. But the resulting RGB color values must remain the same as defined as RGB values in FrameMaker. As FrameMaker uses CMYK values only we need the same  -  technically may be wrong - mapping between CMYK and RGB as shown in FrameMaker and not as shown in InDesign.


Hi Dieter,

Even though it may not be shown as you see RGB/CMYK value as InDesign but it works in the same way. In InDesign you define the default color space for document itself. For now, if you would like to generate RGB pdf, you could check the distiller option which will generate RGB pdf. We do plan to have this addressed in the upcoming update (few weeks away).

Thanks

Amitoj Singh

2 replies

Inspiring
October 8, 2018

The latest update to FM 15.0.1.430 adds an 'RGB' option to the PDF options in the publish pod - this appears to work correctly so I am now able to use the internal PDF engine.

Thanks!

Bob.

Arnis Gubins
Inspiring
August 24, 2018

If you are using the Publish pod route for PDF, then this directly writes to PDF using the colour as defined in the colour menu. If you want RGB colours, then you must define the colours in RGB.

If you print to the PDF printer instance, then this still follows the old postscript output & distill route, which should create RGB from CMYK colours depending upon your joboptions file settings.

Inspiring
August 24, 2018

I have checked the definition of the colours in the Views > Color > Definitions menu and even created new colours using the RGB model but it still appears to be converting them to CMYK when I export the PDF using the Publish pod.

Setting the 'Primary Output Purpose' in the PDF output settings between Print and Online doesn't make any difference either - the PDF always has CMYK colours it seems.

Is there another 'document color mode' menu or setting somewhere I have missed?

Inspiring
August 24, 2018

the color in this case is text color or image color space ?

thanks

Amitoj Singh


The same applies to any colour generated by FrameMaker (text colour, or in this example it is the fill in a table).