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TeraRecon
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January 30, 2017
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How to delete all formats in a doc with minimal keystrokes?

  • January 30, 2017
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Hello,

I'm cleaning out a bunch of old paragraph formats in a book, and then I'm adding in new formats. I did the first document in the book by hand so that it has exactly the formats I want. Several of the formats have new names, as well as new settings.

Now I'm copying the new formats to the other documents in the book. However, if I simply copy them, this does not remove the old ones from the other documents. So instead, I'm removing all the old formats first (even ones that have been preserved in the new set of formats), and then copying the new ones from the document I changed by hand.

Here's the problem: there are nearly 100 formats in the old format list. I can't find a way to do one "remove all formats" operation, so I have to click "delete" for each format. There are 22 documents in this book. That is a lot of mouse clicks. The upper joints of the fingers I use for the mouse are already developing arthritis from too many mouse clicks! In this age of repetitive stress injuries, why doesn't Adobe design the UI of its products to minimize mouse clicks? I also can't find any keyboard sequence that will perform the same function.

Is there any way to do any of the following:

  • Remove all formats of a particular type (eg, paragraph formats) using only one or two keyboard and/or mouse operations? This could be a "remove all" button, or maybe it could allow multiple selections from the catalog list, and then one could click Delete once.

  • Copy new formats from one doc to another so that the whole set of formats is overwritten with the new set? (In other words, replace the catalog in the destination doc with the catalog in the source doc, rather than simply adding it to what is there.

  • Allow the delete button to accept the action of holding down the mouse to continue deleting, rather than making the user perform the click operation over and over.

Can anyone suggest alternatives?

I'm using FrameMaker 2015 on a Windows 8 platform.

Thank you!

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Correct answer Barb Binder

Two ideas for you:

1.) Use the keyboard to speed up the workflow:

  1. Esc o p c opens the paragraph catalog (sequential keystrokes)
  2. Alt+D selects Delete
  3. Hold Alt+E down until all the formats are gone (it's fast!)
  4. Enter=done.

I say "open paragraph catalog" for the first one, and using that mnemonic, Esc o c c is open character catalog, and Esc o t c is open table catalog.

2.) As you have figured out, FrameMaker is awesome at adding formats to documents, and not so great at removing them. If money is no object, take a look at Finalizer, which automates removal. (Note: I went to get the link for you, but I'm not finding it through google. Maybe someone else can drop it in the thread. It was very expensive plug-in but was really awesome. I haven't used it in a few years and hoping it is not gone.)

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Klaus Göbel
Klaus Göbel
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January 31, 2017

Hi jwermont,

I could offer you a free script, that shows you all unused paragraph formats. You can (multi-)select which of them you want to delete.(PgfFmtCleaner)

Additionally a script, that removes unused table formats (TableFmtCleaner) and another, that removes unused variables (VariableCleaner).

But they are in German only (at the moment).

You can download them here: Fairies

Thats a whole bunch of free scripts (included a menu).

Barb Binder
Community Expert
Barb BinderCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
Community Expert
January 31, 2017

Two ideas for you:

1.) Use the keyboard to speed up the workflow:

  1. Esc o p c opens the paragraph catalog (sequential keystrokes)
  2. Alt+D selects Delete
  3. Hold Alt+E down until all the formats are gone (it's fast!)
  4. Enter=done.

I say "open paragraph catalog" for the first one, and using that mnemonic, Esc o c c is open character catalog, and Esc o t c is open table catalog.

2.) As you have figured out, FrameMaker is awesome at adding formats to documents, and not so great at removing them. If money is no object, take a look at Finalizer, which automates removal. (Note: I went to get the link for you, but I'm not finding it through google. Maybe someone else can drop it in the thread. It was very expensive plug-in but was really awesome. I haven't used it in a few years and hoping it is not gone.)

~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
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Anonymous
November 17, 2017

1.) Use the keyboard to speed up the workflow:

  1. Esc o p c opens the paragraph catalog (sequential keystrokes)
  2. Alt+D selects Delete
  3. Hold Alt+E down until all the formats are gone (it's fast!)
  4. Enter=done.

It seems to be different in the German version:

  1. Esc p a K
  2. Alt+L
  3. Alt+L
  4. Alt+Z
    Barb Binder
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    Barb BinderCommunity Expert
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    November 17, 2017

    Hey thanks for that update, Lothar. And your timing is pretty funny.

    I'm working in Fm 2017 and realized yesterday that the keystrokes have changed, and was going to dig up this thread and update it, but you saved me some time.

    In Fm 2017, US English:

    1. Esc o p c
    2. *
    3. Alt+D (this changed)
    4. Enter

    *I can't figure out how to open the Delete dialog box anymore with the keyboard. If anyone has figured it out, please let me know!

    ~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
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