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how to place a png image next to a table

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I have placed a table and now I need to place a png image right next to it that will extend beyond the master page text boundary. can you advise on how best to do this?

see the images below for reference...

this is what I currently have...

this is what I need...

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    Correct answer Barb Binder

    Barb, Ian -

    thank you both for the responses. Barb you are correct. I am trying to place one (1) image along side one (1) table only. as such, solution 2 and the solution that Ian described are above my current skill level.

    I tried adding a column to the table, but I'm not able to straddle the top two cells presumably because they are part of a heading that can copy from page to page. I abandoned this option and moved to another.

    currently, I've inserted an anchored frame (run into paragraph) next to the table in which I'm hoping to place the image. however, when I go to stretch the anchored frame it just expands into the table rather than into the left margin.

    please see the image below for reference...


    You are right on the heading rows—you can't straddle heading and body rows together. Can you keep the table on one page and convert the heading rows to body rows for that one table? (In your latest screen shot, the table is now breaking across pages which is going cause its own issues.)

    Run into paragraph won't work if you want the image to sit on the left and expand into the left margin.

    It's time to ask: does the image have to move with the table automatically? (Of course we want it to, but does it have to?)

    1. If no, just put it on the page (not in anchored frame) and make a note to keep a close eye on it after the final edits.
    2. If yes, we can walk you through my second suggestion.

    ~Barb

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    Barb Binder
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    Community Expert
    December 13, 2017

    Just one, or a lot of them, Matt?

    This is not an easy thing in FrameMaker. A couple of ideas:

    1. Add a column to the left of the table, hide all the rules and shading and straddle the cells all the way down. Set the table to right align so that the image can move past the left margin and add the image, or
    2. Add a right-align anchored frame (again allows the frame contents to move past the left margin), then add a text frame inside and create a side head column. You'll need two paragraph tags one set to Sidehead and one set to In Column, and then add the image to the Sidehead ¶, and the table to the In Column ¶. Once it is working, you can minimize the size of the pilcrows so that they aren't so prominent.

    ~Barb

    ~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
    Ian Proudfoot
    Legend
    December 14, 2017

    If side heads aren't used anywhere else in the flow, then why not just set the image anchor ¶ to 'Side Head' , the table anchor ¶ to 'In Column' and all other ¶ Styles to 'Across All Columns and Side Heads? Set the Side Head alignment to First Baseline and it should all work as required.

    Ian

    Barb Binder
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    December 14, 2017

    Hi Ian:

    That's why I started out by asking with how many of these are in the document.

    Just one, or a lot of them, Matt?

    It sounded like perhaps it was just one ("I have placed a table and now I need to place a png image right next to it") and changing the whole layout for a single occurrence might be too much for a newer user. As a trainer, I am exposed daily to how overwhelming FrameMaker (and InDesign, Photoshop, Illustrator) can feel to someone just getting started and I try to balance that with how I respond. There is a lot of guess work in answering forum questions—unlike with my students where I can gather all the information prior to answering and tailor my response to their specific knowledge level.

    That said, if this image/table combo happens a lot, then I would wholeheartedly agree with your suggestion. For now, we have to wait for Matt to answer that first question.

    ~Barb

    ~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training