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May 8, 2014
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How to withdraw a wrong open and save of a structured fm file in unstructured mode?

  • May 8, 2014
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I opened a structured fm file wrongly in unstructured mode and saved it. When I opened this fm file again in structured mode, the structure view has been blank. Does anyone no how to withdraw this?

Correct answer Lynne A. Price

Dragon,

   To expand slightly on what Alex and Russ have said, whenever you delete content from a FrameMaker document  and save the result, the deleted content is gone. It doesn't matter whether the deleted content is the element hierarchy or text and graphics in the document. A recent backup, whether a version of the file that you explicitly saved or one created by FrameMaker's automatic backup, is

   Alex mentioned that a conversion table might help recreate the document's element structure. His comment assumed that a conversion table was used somewhere in the history of this document. Whether or not that is the case, you can create a new conversion table specifically for this document. If you haven't looked at conversion tables yet, a conversion table is a FrameMaker table that describes how to use tagging in an unstructured document to create an equivalent structured document. How successfully it creates the desired structure depends very much on the nature of the tags used in the unstructured document and the desired element structure.

    --Lynne

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October 20, 2025
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I opened a structured fm file wrongly in unstructured mode and saved it. When I opened this fm file again in structured mode, the structure view has been blank. Does anyone no how to withdraw this?


By @dragonwave

 

Community Expert
October 20, 2025

Hi,

As others had said in this thread: When you save a structured file in unstructured mode as fm file, the structure info is removed.

To get the structure info, you would have to apply the structure again with a conversion table.

Or, best, have a backup file which you can use.

Did the others comments in this thread help?

Best regards, Winfried

Inspiring
May 8, 2014

Hi,

you better have a backup of that file ready, or you're screwed.

Saving a structured document in unstructured FM flattens that file.

If you still have a working conversion table flying around, you could try to use that to restore the structure - but it will most probably not restore everything back to how it was.

-Alex

Legend
May 8, 2014

Yes, that's right, in case you (understandably) may not want to believe it. The loss is permanent and your only hope for true restoration is a backup.

This is an incredible long shot, but if you have FM configured to make automatic backups upon save AND you only saved the "newly unstructured" version one time, the FM-generated backup will still be the original structured version. It will be named with a *.backup.fm extension.

Russ

Lynne A. PriceCorrect answer
Inspiring
May 8, 2014

Dragon,

   To expand slightly on what Alex and Russ have said, whenever you delete content from a FrameMaker document  and save the result, the deleted content is gone. It doesn't matter whether the deleted content is the element hierarchy or text and graphics in the document. A recent backup, whether a version of the file that you explicitly saved or one created by FrameMaker's automatic backup, is

   Alex mentioned that a conversion table might help recreate the document's element structure. His comment assumed that a conversion table was used somewhere in the history of this document. Whether or not that is the case, you can create a new conversion table specifically for this document. If you haven't looked at conversion tables yet, a conversion table is a FrameMaker table that describes how to use tagging in an unstructured document to create an equivalent structured document. How successfully it creates the desired structure depends very much on the nature of the tags used in the unstructured document and the desired element structure.

    --Lynne