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Don't hold your breath for CS7....

Forum|Forum|12 years ago
May 6, 2013
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http://www.adobe.com/cc/letter.html

Seems there won't be a CS7 ever.

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Kopy-Rite

Participating Frequently

I have taken to following every Adobe pay-per-click ad I can find... facebook, etc... hoping that I will click on one that reveals Adobe will reverse course on the rent-for-life plan and become customer-centric once again.

So far, no luck. Anyone else have any luck?

CarlosCanto

Community Expert

they should have official news about it "shortly" as per their blog post posted a few posts above

_scott__Author

Legend

Well now the forum cache isn't updating for me. I can's see recent replies unless I post something.

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nightshadow_1

Participant

Adobe... So you just want to tell us old, loyal customers to get lost? Those of us who are now retired or disabled, and helped make you what you are today... but we are now fools because you want to fight piracy?

Yes... we are the fools... We bought your product even when we could have pirated them, but now, in order to fight the pirates, you will not let us continue to own these products... after so many years?

The priates are already laughing at us!

I am now disabled/retired and can't afford a monthly fee... and I do not have an ongoing, reliable internet connection... I haven't even been able to upload ONE (1) large Tiff file so my friends could access it. but now you expect me to use the cloud for... everything? What BS!

This is crap! Pure extortion!

You have had your people talk for how long about converting our RAW files to your "forever, available, format." Now you are saying that (in the future) if we have LR, with one version of ACR and CS6 with an old one, because we can't afford your monthly subscription fees, then we will be SOL?

Is this what you mean?

I don't like lawyers, but I think they will have a field day with this...

JETalmage

Inspiring

...because you want to fight piracy?

Nightshadow,

This isn't about piracy. It's about flattening and broadening the revenue stream. Creative Coolaid users can't elect to skip versions which they deem unworthy of the price. They'll become more "captive" to Adobe than ever before. Adobe doesn't have to ship disks or print packaging; just put it on a server, continue using cookies to bombard everyone online with ads, and charge whatever the suckers who buy into it will pay to be forever at Adobe's mercy. It's every monolithic software vendor's dream: Continuous Charging of Captive Customers.

It's just like the nonsense about "In a community of creative experts, Help is not a document" tripe. Gag me. That bit of Creative Copy writing is about shrugging the burden of customer support and proper documentation onto the customers themselves.

JET

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Wade_Zimmerman1

Inspiring

I wonder if Adobe introduces features and new services that you find you need if that will change your position on this?

JETalmage

Inspiring

I don't know why it feels like sad news

Probably because those of us who aren't interested in monthly software subscription fees have just been written off by Adobe.

Corel, ACD, and Xara should be glad to hear it.

JET

_scott__Author

Legend

At least I don't need to budget for CS7 this year. I can just use CS6 until the wheels fall off, then begrudgingly subscribe if needed.

JETalmage

Inspiring

At least I don't need to budget for CS7 this year.

Same here. I'll be sending less than half of what I've been sending Adobe for each version upgrade of CS to Corel for an overdue upgrade to the Draw Technical Suite--and be happier, to boot, with the greater empowerment I gain from it in terms of significant and practical functionality.

JET

CarlosCanto

Community Expert

I don't know why it feels like sad news

should we be exited instead about the new CC features?

http://www.adobe.com/products/illustrator/features.html

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Kopy-Rite

Participating Frequently

I will certainly be looking for an alternative to a lifetime of extortion from Adobe.

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Dreia Melinkoff

Participant

It may not be worth it for some casual users or even some pro users. I became a CC subscriber because I wanted access to to the app, UI, and ebook creation tools. For my design, personal creative, and photo editing work, my use of Illustrator and Photoshop has not really exploited any new feature added since Photoshop 7. It's probably the same for a lot of users.

In the end, it's all about looking at - honestly - how you use the product and what you will get out of keeping on top of every new upgrade.

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Anonymous

[scott w] wrote:
@Dreia, Yes you can still use legacy versions for the time being. It is absolutely possible to run CS4, CS5 or CS6 right along side a CC subscription. But in 3 or 4 years time, the CC model fails. There will be no legacy version. You either have the latest CC version or nothing. That is one of the biggest issues for me. While the CC structure is workable this year.... it won't be next year, or the year after. And given Adobe's constant changes in policy regarding this, there's nothing to say users who blindly jump on the CC bandwagon won't be screwed again in 12 - 18 months. Adobe has done nothing over the past 3 years but show that they devalue loyal users more and more.
@Doc, your'e still focusing on pricing.... that's NOT the major issue.

OK. I've said my peace re: pricing.

Re: legacy versions: either in an interview or a statement from Adobe, I'm sorry... I've read too much on this subject over the last couple of days to remember... they stated that they will be having previous "versions" and roll-backs on their servers. How far back is naturally the concern.

I'm sure due to the mega-uproar over the announcement and Adobe stilll being in the middle of MAX, more details will come to light after the event. I also will agree that the last 3-7 years have really been a waste at Adobe in regards to the state of improvements and bug-fixes. This. must. Be. Remedied. IMMEDIATELY! ... for any of this to be worthwhile for Adobe in the end.

I'm also going to say, that regardless of the success of the roll-out, the stock-price, whatever... I would love... really jump-for-joy-LOVE!... if there's a shake out at the top. Succintly: get rid of Shantanu Narayen (C+V for spelling) and any of the bean-counters and marketing gurus that have made a thorough mess of Adobe over the last few years. They're as bad as, if not worse than Microsoft with their hubris... and betting on the next wave of technology is for all to witness... not their strong suit!

I think the engineering talent is there... but they have been held back by marketing/profit tactics. I truthfully don't think this is one of those tactics though. It does appear to be a streamlining and focus planning. Now it remains to be seen if and whether they can execute those strengths within their software....?! I'l stay safe-side and bet 50:50.

I agree with you about a shake out in Adobe admin. And that there have not been enough bug fixes. I'll add there have not been enough improvements for print specialists. Now if these overdue fixes and improvements are finally done, Adobe will now require us to pay a monthly fee for them.

MW Design

Inspiring

Probably inevitable. CS6 will be the last version for me.

Take care, Mike

RaviKiran

Adobe Employee

Guys, just head over to http://tv.adobe.com/watch/inside-creative-cloud/the-myths-of-adobe-creative-cloud/ to clear your misconceptions.

rcraighead

Legend

What I heard on the video is that I cannot run more than one version of AI from CC. When I upgrade it sounds like I'll lose the ability to work in an earlier version from CC. Am I wrong?

I am currently paying for CC even though I am not able to use AICS6 in my workflow because of bugs. It is over one year and nothing has changed. According to the "Myth" video I will be force to "upgrade" to the latest version after one year, whether the bugs are fixed or not.

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