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November 7, 2017
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How to recreate this image in Illustrator? need help

  • November 7, 2017
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Hello dear Illustrator users. I have come across an issue, I want to print a large image, therefore I need to recreate this image which has a resolution of 2000x2000 to a resolution of 12000x12000. The reason why the resolution that I want to remake it in is so big, is because I want to print it in a very large format (100cm x 100cm). The painting itself is has a lot of detail but is not complex. Since I am new to illustrator and havent mastered all the tools I had trouble doing it by hand. I tried the live trace option and that failed too. Can anyone help me to recreate this image without losing its original qualities and features?
The image is: https://imgur.com/a/3Fs79

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Correct answer John Mensinger

jdanek  wrote

You said in your original post you wanted a very large print.  100cm is not very large ( 39.37" ).  You have now an image of 166.66" x 166.66" @ 72ppi ( sent to you buy the artist, congratulations on that by the way ).  So, I am not clear about your final size for the file.  You could build your Illustrator file at 100% ( 39.37 x 39.37" or 100cm x 100cm ).  Now the size depends on the final output.  It appears that your file could be printed using an offset printer and, if that is the case, then the image could be resized ( always rename the original so you always have the original file ) to 100cm x 100cm @ 300ppi using Photoshop and "Placed" in Illustrator.  The image size is doubled every 50% reduction ( 12000 @ 72ppi ÷ 2 = 144ppi; ÷ 2 = 288ppi ).  In inches you'd start with 166.666 ÷ 4 = 41.6665 @ 288ppi = 39.37" @ 300ppi ( your 100cm size ).  However, you refer to your project as "very large", so not sure what you mean.  If the printer uses an inkjet large format printer, they only need 144ppi which you can easily achieve resizing in Photoshop.  If the printer uses offset, you can still achieve the final 300ppi using Photoshop.  Your additional artwork of the "Monster Energy" logo is all good in Illustrator as vector artwork.

I thought that 100cm x 100cm is "very large" thats why I used those words hahaha. So 12000 x 12000 is 166" x 166" @ 72ppi? I still want to print my canvas painting at about 100cm x 100cm, however after reading several sources about printing, I concluded that my file should be at 300ppi if I want a high quality output. What do you mean build my Illustrator file at 100%, do you mean to create a file that is the size of 100cm x 100cm and just import my 12000 x 12000 picture that was sent to me? When I went to photoshop and opened the picture, I went on change image size and then I could change the ppi to 300 however when I did that I noticed that when I zoomed in the picture was blurrier than it was when it was 72 ppi, is this normal? does this mean that when I change it to 300ppi the outcume quality of the picture will be more pixelated and lower quality?

"In inches you'd start with 166.6/4=41.6665 @ 288ppi = 39.37" @ 300ppi (your 100cm size)" this part wasnt clear to me neither, nor " the image size is doubled every 50% reduction (12000 @ 72ppi/2=144ppi, /2=288ppi)". What are you refering this to? when I create a new file in illustrator that is the size of 100cm x 100cm or? what am I dividing? what and how do I use this information?

I have very little knowledge about all these terms and Illustrator and Photoshop in general. The only thing that I know is that I have an image (.tif and .jpg) that has a resolution of 12000 x 12000 and that I want to print this image at a size of 100cm x 100cm on a canvas. AFAIK from my little research, I need to have a file of a 300ppi so that the outcome image on my canvas will be high quality and not pixelated. Now do I need to redraw the image in illustrator @ 300ppi or what? I want the picture to be as sharp as it is in 72ppi, I mean when I zoom in @ 72ppi everything is crisp and sharp, however when I do that @ 300ppi everything is uch blurrier so would this mean that it would be like this when I print it out or? I honwstly just need a very simple termed and detailed set of instruction on what it is that I need to do to print this image at 100cm x 100cm from my .tif or .jpg 12000 x 12000 file which is @ 72ppi.

Edit: from this source Creating a High Resolution Image for Printing and Displaying Online | PicMonkey it says that to get a high quality image, I need to multiply 300 by how many inches I want my image to be, so that would be 12000, but what I have is 12000 @ 72ppi not @ 300ppi... idk if I understood everything correctly.


Let's simplify.

So 12000 x 12000 is 166" x 166" @ 72ppi?

Yes.

  1. Open that image in Photoshop and choose Image > Image Size...
  2. Near the bottom of the Image Size dialog, un-tick the Resample check box.
  3. Edit the Resolution field: change 72 to 300 . . . and see the effect on the image size. That's what "resolution" is, the number that resolves the image (print) size based on number of pixels in a linear inch (ppi). Now the image size is 40 inches x 40 inches; just over your desired print size of 100 cm X 100 cm @300ppi

Forget Illustrator and everything else. Nothing else to do now but send that image to print.

4 replies

New Participant
November 8, 2017
In my opinion, illustrator creates and re-creates. Looks like the image size or canvas is what you desire to change so you can have a large print out.

I would suggest you research the pixel / file size internationally on the web and be able to create an art board of that size and find ways

of resizing it.

Otherwise you are going to have to use another program as Doug A Roberts suggested.

Cheers

Inspiring
November 7, 2017

Because the artwork was already created, it holds copyright ownership from the person who created it.  Once you "recreate" the artwork, you've infringed on those rights.  I recommend tracing back to the original creator or whoever holds the rights to the image and buy a license to use it.  At a minimum, get permission. In writing.

Ray Yorkshire
Participating Frequently
November 7, 2017

It's a bit of an ask recreating that in Illustrator, if you are not an experienced user

It was probably drawn initially using 3d software

Maybe better to contact  the creator, perhaps he can provide you with a high definition version, or even vector file you can scale as you please

Gallery – www.alecmaassen.com

Doug A Roberts
Adobe Expert
November 7, 2017

time consuming, sure, but recreating this is just a case of drawing shapes with various fills.

do you have any background in axonometric drawing? because that would help too.

Known Participant
November 7, 2017

I dont. I dont have any experience at all. Well the first thing I did in illustrator was recreating the Monster Energy logo, that was a success however this just looks impossible to me. Do you know if you can help? How can I recreate this?

Known Participant
November 10, 2017

Illustrator is for the layout assuming you plan to use text events along with the Monster Energy logo.

A common misunderstanding is 300 ppi means higher quality. It doesn't. The resolution is set for final output. The image looks great at 72ppi, as it will at 144ppi and 288ppi.

Sorry my posts were hard to understand. I wanted to articulate the mathematics involved when down sizing. I hope you show your file and let us know how it all works out.

Sent from my iPhone


Well I can't show my file, because that would just be disrespectful to the artist. He aksed me not to give or show the file to anyone :/ However when I print it I will send a pic of how it looks!