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White Overprinting

Explorer ,
Mar 15, 2024 Mar 15, 2024

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Can anyone give me a scenario where you would want the white swatch in Illustrator to overprint? If you need a screen printed white color, you should designate a separate white spot color. So, I'm wondering why Illustrator (or InDesign) even allows you to set a white object to overprint?

I received a logo file from a client, opened in Illustrator, and copied and pasted into InDesign. Then sent to print and the proof came back without the white parts of the logo, so I had to fix it and send a new file to the printer.

The other issue is that InDesign won't let me change the overprint setting within the Attributes panel in InDesign, even though the object is vector pasted directly from Illustrator. I have to open the logo in Illustrator and change the overprint setting there and then copy that back into InDesign.

Why won't InDesign let me change the setting?

 

It's quite frustrating and it seems like Adobe should just make it so that you cannot set objects that have white fills to overprint.

In my 30 years as a designer, I have never come across a scenario where you would want white to be overprinted if you're producing a print-ready file.

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Mar 15, 2024 Mar 15, 2024

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The option exists, because some (probably very huge) company asked for it.

It might be associated with blends, but there are only rumors as to who asked for it.

 

Overprint preview eists for you to check your files.

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Explorer ,
Mar 17, 2024 Mar 17, 2024

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Do you know why you can't edit that setting in InDesign if it's vector artwork?

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Mar 17, 2024 Mar 17, 2024

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the InDesign attributes panel you can change it for embedded artwork.

For placed artwork you need to open the Illustrator file in Illustrator. There might be options to correct it in Acrobat. 

 

 

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Mar 18, 2024 Mar 18, 2024

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There is a bug in InDesign, then, because this artwork was copied and pasted from Illustrator into InDesign. I did not place it. It was pure vector art that I could select in InDesign. However, when I selected the artwork the attributes panel in ID would show a grayed out checked box for overprinting of the white object and would not let me change it.

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Mar 18, 2024 Mar 18, 2024

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In cases like that I would first change the color, then try the overprint settings again. If nothing helps, then do it in Illustrator.

 

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Mar 17, 2024 Mar 17, 2024

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There are many scenarios you would want a spot white ink to overprint (mylar foil chip bag), but not many for the default process white swatch, and therefore the latest version of illustrator gives this error.

 

Screen Shot 2024-03-17 at 5.35.06 PM.jpg

 

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Participant ,
Mar 18, 2024 Mar 18, 2024

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So check "do not show again"...

The idea is to ban the overprints white process objects once and for all, 
or at least warn in a way that cannot be turned off.

 

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Mar 18, 2024 Mar 18, 2024

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@packaging specialist  schrieb:

The idea is to ban the overprints white process objects once and for all, 

 


 

This forum can't change anything. You want a feature? Please ask for it in https://illustrator.uservoice.com 

 

Checking overprint preview should be everyone's practice before and after export (then in Acrobat).

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Mar 18, 2024 Mar 18, 2024

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The idea is to ban the overprints white process objects once and for all, 

 


By @packaging specialist

 

This forum can't change anything. You want a feature? Please ask for it in https://illustrator.uservoice.com 

 

So I did. Thank you.


 

quoteChecking overprint preview should be everyone's practice before and after export (then in Acrobat).

By @Monika Gause

 

Preflight will not find anything in a properly prepared PDFX.
White overprinted objects will lose the overprint attribute and will become printable.
Which may be a problem if you were working with the overprintprint preview
and did not see that someone had added e.g. small white text.

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Mar 18, 2024 Mar 18, 2024

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As long as there's no change to the Attributes panel you can either use Astute Graphics Ink Quest or worker 72a White Overprint Detector: https://rj-graffix.com/downloads/worker72a-plugins/

 

And please post a link to your feature request for headcount reasons.

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Mar 26, 2024 Mar 26, 2024

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Mar 18, 2024 Mar 18, 2024

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We have a new HP Latex 700W large format printer in our shop that can print white ink. Any art objects that use white ink have to use a specially named spot color and the fill has to be set to overprint. If the art isn't set up correctly it won't get processed correctly by Onyx Thrive (the large format RIP application connected to the printer).

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