Bug unter Mac OS Ventura: Color differences between GPU and software rendering

[Sascha Fronczek]

Hey, there is a annoying bug unter InDesign 2022 and 2023 under Mac OS Ventura.

InDesign is rendering with GPU the colors unsaturated and wrong.

Only switching to the software renderer (shift+E) will render the colors correctly.

Is there any way to fix this?

I attached some examples.

Best

Sascha

[HARSHIKA_VERMA]

Hi @Sascha Fronczek,

Thank you for reaching out, and sorry for the trouble you're experiencing issues with color rendering incorrectly on macOS Ventura. We are able to reproduce the issue at our end, and we'll go ahead and log a bug for it.

Could you please share the screenshot of "About this Mac" for better investigation?

We'll escalate the issue to the team for investigation.

Thanks,

Harshika

[Sascha Fronczek]

Thank you Harshika,

Screenshot is attached. I fiured out, that under Intel-Mode, the issue is gone.

Best 

Sascha

[Eugene Tyson]

Hello

I found this thread here with some explanations

https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/image-saturation-suddenly-varies-between-indesig...

[Sascha Fronczek]

Thanks for the link.
But I have been working in GPU mode for years and there have never been different colors between software and GPU.
All colors are desaturated in InDesign as soon as GPU mode is used. You can't really work that way anymore. The software mode is very slow 😞

[Eugene Tyson]

I'm not really sure what I can do for you at this point.

Perhaps @rob day can help you out - he's very good with this sort of behaviour. 

I don't even know what Graphics Card you have - your OS - your RAM - or anything about your setup that can help you out. 

We need a lot more information from  yourself in order to help you. 

Can you please provide your system settings? 

[Sascha Fronczek]

Thanks alot! 
I’m using a MacBook Pro 16" with a M1 Max and using Mac OS Ventura with Indesign 17.4 and 18.

[Sascha Fronczek]

Fun fact: When I open InDesign in Intel-Mode, the problem is gone.

But InDesign runs now on Rosetta 😕

[RobertG77]

Same here with Mac Studio M1 Ultra and InDesign 2022 / InDesign 2023.

Using software renderer or Rosetta will render correct colors, but this is extreme slow. 

[Sascha Fronczek]

BTW: Illustrator under Mac OS Ventura has the same issue. GPU wrong colors, CPU right colors.

[Damien Chw]

Hello. I have the same issue on Illustrator 2023 and Indesign 2023 which I resolved by switching back to macOS Monterey. I'm on a Macbook M1 Max. Problem well related to MacOS Ventura update.

[Damien Chw]

Hello. I have the same issue on Illustrator 2023 and Indesign 2023 which I resolved by switching back to macOS Monterey. I'm on a Macbook M1 Max. Problem well related to MacOS Ventura update.

[Mouchet0D4C]

Hi, 

I have the same problem.
Do you have a simple/quick solution without having to format the mac to reinstall Monterey?

[Sascha Fronczek]

Open your Adobe Creative Cloud Manager and right click on InDesign and open it in Intel mode. 

[Mouchet0D4C]

Yes I tested this method but it is much slower than with the GPU.
I finally opted to reinstall Mac OS Monterey, while waiting for an update for Ventura.

[HARSHIKA_VERMA]

Hi All,

We are aware of how annoying it could be. The team is looking into a known bug with Illustrator and InDesign. 

The workaround that has helped customers so far-

• Open Adobe Creative Cloud Manager, right-click InDesign and open it in Intel mode.
• Resolved by switching back to macOS Monterey.

Please try the workaround suggested and let us know if that works.

We'll keep you informed as soon as the problem is fixed.

Thanks,

Harshika

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[Hervus]

Hi, same problem here... Is ther any other solution than switching back to macOS Monterey ? 

Are you working on resolving this problem ? 

Thank you very much 

[Sascha Fronczek]

Yes, Intel-Mode: Open Adobe Creative Cloud Manager, right-click InDesign and open it in Intel mode.

[Hervus]

Thanks, ok. But they says that it will use Rosetta and slow photoshop, i don't want that 🙂

[Eugene Tyson]

Opening INDesign in Intel mode has nothing to do with photoshop.

[AlwaysSave]

Hello,

I got a new MBP and I'm having trouble getting my colors to show as RGB colors in the working space. The colors are washed out (in CYMK colors). I have already changed my Transparency Blend Space > Document RGB and it has not worked. I created my document as a Web doc and the Color Settings are correct as RGB: sRGB IEC61966-2.1 and CMYK: U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2. When exporting, the colors show up correctly, but I need to have the colors showing RGB in the working space as I work in the print and digital(web) space. I even restarted Indesign AND my MBP to see if things will update, but it didn't.

Can anyone help me on this? I'm on my wits end to get colors showing as RGB. I got RGB colors in the working space on my old MBP but duplicating the settings has not worked.

[HARSHIKA_VERMA]

Hi @AlwaysSave,

Thank you for reaching out. If I heard you right, you're experiencing a similar issue reported here: https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/bug-unter-mac-os-ventura-color-differences-betwe....

If so, please try the suggested workaround and let us know. We will keep you posted on the bug update.

Thanks,

Harshika 

[AlwaysSave]

Hi Harsika,

Thank you! This solved the issue! Appreciate your help on this.

K

[HARSHIKA_VERMA]

Awesome. Glad to hear you're able to resolve the issue by following the workaround. We'll keep you posted on the bug update.

Have a nice day!

Thanks,

Harshika

[markus_m]

Same here with InDesign and Illustrator, after updating to Mac OS Ventura on a McBook Pro M1 16'' the colors are looking very dull. Under Monterey it was fine. Hoping a fix will com quickly.