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Certain letter turns into a rectangle when typing

Community Beginner ,
Jun 18, 2018 Jun 18, 2018

When I select a certain font and type any word with 'art' in the 'r' turns into a rectangle/box. If I type 'a' and then 'r' that's fine it's only when I follow the 'r' with 't' that the 'r' turns into a box !?

This has never happened before, any ideas?

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Valorous Hero , Jun 18, 2018 Jun 18, 2018

I downloaded the font from the link Barb has.

The font (at least the free font) has a contextual ligatures feature that purposefully switched the r character for the .notdef character (the upright rectangle you are seeing). That feature (clig) is turned on by default in ID. Turn it off in ID and you'll get the r back.

That clig feature (such as it is) only happens if the word art is typed. I would suspect the commercial version of the font doesn't do this.

Mike

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Enthusiast ,
Jun 18, 2018 Jun 18, 2018

Hi,

can you please post a screenshot and provide some information about the operating system and InDesign version?

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Community Expert ,
Jun 18, 2018 Jun 18, 2018

And what font, specifically, are you using?

~Barb

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Community Expert ,
Jun 18, 2018 Jun 18, 2018

This sounds like the font could be corrupt. Usually when a font shows a box like that it is because that font doesn't have that particular character. But that would usually be something like a footnote character or something else that is apart from the basic alphabet. Try loading another copy of the font (if one is available) and see if the problem persists.

Also, please post what the name of the font is and whether it is TrueType, Open Type or Postscript Type 1.

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 18, 2018 Jun 18, 2018

I'm using the font Drawing with Markers, it is TTF and I have been using this font for ages. I tried re-installing but the same thing happens

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 18, 2018 Jun 18, 2018

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Community Expert ,
Jun 18, 2018 Jun 18, 2018

Is the correct character showing up in the glyphs panel for this font?

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 18, 2018 Jun 18, 2018

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 18, 2018 Jun 18, 2018

The 'r' is in the glyphs panel and is there and visible until I type 't' after it. Only then does it change to a box

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 18, 2018 Jun 18, 2018

Could I have messed up the kerning or something?

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Community Expert ,
Jun 18, 2018 Jun 18, 2018

What you are showing is the way that a missing character is represented. Check the bottom your Character Panel to make sure that your InDesign is set for your correct language. Also check the language in the Advanced Character Formats section of the respective dialog boxes for any Paragraph and Character Styles you might have in your documents including the Basic Paragraph Style.

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Community Expert ,
Jun 18, 2018 Jun 18, 2018

OK. The Glyphs panel looks right. How do you have the font loaded? Are you using a font utility like Font Explorer? What ever way you have the font loaded try one of the alternative ways. You didn't say whether you are on a Mac or PC so you will have to figure out a different way to load the font depending on your system.

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 18, 2018 Jun 18, 2018

Hi Bill, I download the font then drag the ttf directly into the Font Book on the Mac.

p.s. thank you for your help and advice on this

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Valorous Hero ,
Jun 18, 2018 Jun 18, 2018

I downloaded the font from the link Barb has.

The font (at least the free font) has a contextual ligatures feature that purposefully switched the r character for the .notdef character (the upright rectangle you are seeing). That feature (clig) is turned on by default in ID. Turn it off in ID and you'll get the r back.

That clig feature (such as it is) only happens if the word art is typed. I would suspect the commercial version of the font doesn't do this.

Mike

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 19, 2018 Jun 19, 2018

Thank you Mike, you've nailed it!

And thank you to everyone for your inputs too.

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Valorous Hero ,
Jun 19, 2018 Jun 19, 2018
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You are welcome.

BTW, Emily's commercial use font with all 4 styles is only $3...

Drawing With Markers Handwriting Font 4 Styles Commercial

Mike

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Community Expert ,
Jun 18, 2018 Jun 18, 2018

Did you remove and re-download it?

Drawing with markers Font | dafont.com

~Barb

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 18, 2018 Jun 18, 2018

p.s. the font and arrangement of letters works fine in Photoshop, I suspect I have done something in InDesign whilst typing. Triggered some sort of shortcut or set a rule or something maybe...

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