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After a recent update, my InDesign is now showing all these stupid pop-ups the whole time.
Screenshot attached. To be absolutely clear, I am talking about the entire dialogue box, not the tool-tip illustrateed in a section of the dialogue box shown.
How do I kill them off once and for all ? I've looked through Preferences but canot spot anything obvious.
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Hi Everyone,
Thank you all for sharing your feedback and concerns about the "Learn More" pop-ups in InDesign. I completely understand how disruptive these can be, and it's clear they are causing frustration for many of you.
While these pop-ups aren’t technically a bug, we do recognize that they can be an inconvenience for some users. We’re looking into ways to improve this experience and are considering options that would allow you more control-such as the ability to disable them permanently i
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No, you can't disable those. Every time you reset preferences or install an update you get those blue dots and Learn More items. Very annoying indeed. You could log a request at https://indesign.uservoice.com.
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Thanks @Peter Kahrel
As an avid Adobe supporter and user for many years, I have this dark feeling creeping in that it may be time to part ways.
Perhaps the early adopters of Affinity etc. were not wrong. Adobe, it seems, has lost its way. And I'm sad about that. I came to Adobe, and in particular InDesign because Quark had lost its way. Perhaps Adobe's time has come.
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I agree - I am actively looking into an alternative.
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The thing is... Affinity has been bought by Canva, so the best alternative is more or less out. It is so weird that as a company you basically have a semi-monopoly on a solution that is used globally and that leads you to... let it die slowly. InDesign is the solution that basically every designer who does editorial works with. It's great software and could be made amazingly relevant for digital content with just a bit of love for ID and PDF and conversions, could be made relevant for Social Media with a bit of work spent on the old animation stuff, bringing in some of the Express or After Effects knowledge to Indesign. You could use KI to make design work smother and more efficient (replacement, GREP, text correction, placement of elements, basic design work etc), you could make ePub and online publications much stronger and smoother and so on. There is so much potential and potential revenue here, it's really sad that they don't polish the software and make it shine again. Because for one Print is everything but dead, so we need something like ID, and for the other, the platform is wonderful for expanding into the digital realm. But it feels like Adobe has given up on ID and there is one single person in a darkly lit room toiling along on giving us new features like, well, footnotes... :-D. I really love Adobe and Indesign especially, worked with it since the first Beta and with PageMaker before and I would so so so love to see them give this the energy and manpower to make it a great part of the CC suite.
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Hi,
Thank you for reaching out and for sharing your detailed thoughts and passion for InDesign. We truly appreciate your long-standing support and valuable feedback. It’s clear you care deeply about the software and its potential, and we understand the frustration of feeling like it's not living up to its full capabilities.
Regarding the "Learn More" pop-ups you’re seeing, they typically appear after a new software update or installation. The good news is that they should disappear after you’ve seen them 2-3 times. If they persist beyond that, feel free to let us know, and we can explore further troubleshooting options.
Please rest assured that we will also pass your feedback along to the product team. Your insights about improving InDesign for both print and digital content, along with suggestions for integrating more modern tools, are incredibly helpful.
We’re always striving to make InDesign better, and input from dedicated users like you is a big part of that process. Thank you again for your continued support and for being part of the InDesign community.
Best,
Abhishek Rao
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Those pop-ups reappear every time you install or remove a plug-in, and every time you reset InDesign's preferences. Especially the latter occurs pretty frequently, so in effect those pop-ups never really go away.
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I had a relatively large rant about this 7 years ago.
It's gotten worse.
It could simply be a Help menu item
Explore New Features
and it triggers the popups
It's very intrusive.
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There should just a preference which can be turned on to TURN THEM ALL OFF for people who don't need them.
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I concurr with @Peter Kahrel , they do not "disappear after you’ve seen them 2-3 times".
They don't even disappear if you click "Got it". They disappear for maybe 20 minutes, or maybe for the current document but they come back with a vengance.
The only acceptable answer is what @Steve Werner says, to add a preference to turn them all off, permanently, once and for all.
It can't be that difficult. I know I'm not the only one becuase there is a long-standing complaint open on uservoice which I can only assume Adobe have decided to actively ignore instead of doing anything about it.
I can also only imagine that if InDesign is used internally at Adobe, then you guys must have a special version with this garbage turned off ? Becasue otherwise I can't see your own internal designers putting up with it for more than 5 seconds ?
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Hi Everyone,
Thank you all for sharing your feedback and concerns about the "Learn More" pop-ups in InDesign. I completely understand how disruptive these can be, and it's clear they are causing frustration for many of you.
While these pop-ups aren’t technically a bug, we do recognize that they can be an inconvenience for some users. We’re looking into ways to improve this experience and are considering options that would allow you more control-such as the ability to disable them permanently in future updates.
Your input is invaluable in helping us improve the software, and we’ll keep you updated on any progress from the product team.
Best,
Abhishek Rao
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" they can be an inconvenience for some users" @Abhishek Rao ?
I would love to meet a user who is not inconvenienced !
Please, don't annoy your users more .... spare us the corporate-speak, just admit Adobe got it wrong. The community would actually respect you for that.
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How hard is this to program a checkbox to turn this unprofessional oversight off? Seriously? It's bad enough InDesign never remembers my Workspace setting, which then causes the popups to start over again when I reset my worksp...you know what, nevermind, this is insane.
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@Abhishek Rao another one to add to the collection
https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/how-to-disable-persistent-adobe-cc-library-tutor...
Hope all this feedback is helpful to the team - we certainly would love to see a better UI/UX for InDesign and anything we can do to help out is really great to know that the team are working hard on it.
If there's anything else you need please let us know.
Thanks
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It's December 10. Just add a checkbox to allow us to turn them off. We'll wait...
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For heaven's sake, just let us turn them OFF! You say you're always striving to make InDesign better? Better for who? I think you see dedicated users as a resource to be mined, not customer base to be served.
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I agree. Adobe has completely lost its way. They recognize that these things annoy a LOT (maybe most) of users, but they're too busy trying to REPLACE their users with AI to worry about this. Seriously contemplating joining the rebellion.
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I don't think anyone wants AI to replace humans, I think we're a long way away from that. However, a lot of companies are embracing AI at the moment and implementing to their software to try bring it a new exciting level of engagement with customers, who doesn't want to reach more customers, right?
If it's not for you you don't have to use it - you can choose not to use it - like any feature in InDesign, like I don't do any Indexing or Cross-References so I simply don't use those features, but I wouldn't begrudge a newer fancier way being worked on, even if it implemented AI.
It's like a box of chocolates there's something for everyone but you couldn't ask them to take out the toffee sweets cos you don't like them, you simply don't eat them and they either go in the bin or maybe to someone who wants them.
Anyway, I don't think Adobe are 'lost' - sure the popups and intrusions are annoying, which is why it's been amalgamated and taken seriously - and it's great to provide feedback and it's a great opportunity to get your ideas across and be part of the revolution.
I don't know what you mean by joining the rebellion - if you mean leaving the Adobe packages for another, nobody is forcing you to use anything.
Adobe are the industry standard and moving to other software, like Corel, Affinity, Quark, etc. all has pros and cons - mostly that you won't be using industry standard formats that are used globally.
But if it makes you happy and you're willing to go down that route of a big learning curve and software with lesser features that may or may not work the way you like then that's up to you.
If the issue is AI and pop ups - then I don't know how you can avoid AI as it's being embraced by lots. And the popups - Adobe are working on it.
Share your ideas - be a part of the solution.
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I don't think you understand what the problem is, do you? Is someone talking about AI? No. We're talking about Adobe making us do things that slow us down at work. AI was just one of the many examples of this annoying pop-up popping up. And if you want a solution, here it is. Just add a checkbox to the settings to permanently disable these annoying pop-ups. OK?
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Of course I understand, there's no need to be rude to me or anyone else.
A lot of people are suggesting an option to tick it on or off.
Id like it in the Cc app, but maybe per application is better.
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I see. Unfortunately, I didn't get it, because you explained at length that those who don't want to use AI don't have to use it, and you also gave a real-life example. That confused me. If you find my posts rude, then no one is forcing you to read them.
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I am a Community Expert on the forums - I do have to read them and I will reply when I find it necessary.
Someone else brought up AI - the forums are not very good at showing the replies in lineation so it's hard to follow the threads.
Have a nice evening.
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Is someone talking about AI?
By @Jindřich3403716436xp
Yes, @Eugene Tyson was replying to a comment made in the previous post. He did not bring it up.
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I really like how the discourse here is getting a bit emotional, it reflects the fact that Adobe does not produce 99/y just-for-fun software but the essential tools of some trades, which is part of the blessing and curse of having at least an oligopol, if not monopol. And it is a difficultposition, most reflected by Photoshop, a product that still has UX-elements from the 90s, because every move means trouble with the user base not being willing to change their ways and workflows. Personally I would love to see more disruption and going forward, learning from other softwares, improving speed and UI by moving closer to the Mac&Win infrastructures etc. This is where Affinity and Pixelmator can shine, as they really employ the graphics and esthetics of Apple MacOS, it makes the dev job easier and results in a smarter product. I can understand users paying some hundred or even thousands of dollars per month for a software package demanding some kind of mix between cutting edge technology giving them the fastest and best results and at the same time 100% reliability because in a pro environment every bug costs money instead of just being annoying .
But these here are different, more basic arguments:
What I understand is:
— Most folks like AI, but we'd love to see better and non-Adobe-models integrated in PS (flux, SD etc) and especially see design- and typography-centric approached in ID. Help us do the work instead of shoehorning already-established PS-tools into other softwares we do not use for image generation. Indesign, however, could be a super interesting field for other LLM-based tools.
— User-«friendly» pop-ups explaining new features only work when you can disable them instantly as with every other software out there.
— I don't think people are willing to leave Adobe, they're just frustrated that Indesign seems baked and is not progressing in any sensible modern direction, instead we get more or less half-a**ed Canva-2.0-stuff like Express. From what I hear from colleagues, we all want a more, better, more versatile, more fuctional INDESIGN, that works (even better) for Print but also breaks the barrier to digital publications, something clients want but which still does not exist. One of our clients spends over 30.000€/year for a super-awful WYSIWYG-solution for online-publications, because there IS no professional tool that allows us to use the typographc and editorial power of ID, add parallax and some smart CSS-stuff and have a neat, clean, accessible and functional digital publication (the HTML-export is a small first step in that direction). Coming up with that, basically going beyond HTML and PDF (and Flash of yore) will be a market for us pros AND for Adobe. And sorry, but image-generation with a second-tier model in a software for editorial design is just not.
So basically beyond the frustration this is a very active form of consulting, a feedback that shows how even a 20-versions-old software like ID (and AI/PS) still is relevant and still could be relevant for multivector publishing. And users probably are a bit frustrated because they and their clients need those tools – a smart design solkution with AI abilities that support but do not supplant design work and a way to output on the highest level in print and for Web/Social – and I guess we all wonder why Adobe even allow a mess like Canva to take its business model away 😄
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With the greatest of respect, I find your tone on this thread condescending.
Just because you are a "Community Expert" it does not mean you have to sit there defending the indefensible.
The solution to this wholly un-necessary problem of pop-ups is simple. I know that, we know that and, frankly, I'm sure you know that too.
So please, spare use the condescending statements such as "Share your ideas - be a part of the solution." or "sure the popups and intrusions are annoying, which is why it's been amalgamated and taken seriously"
If Adobe was taking it seriously, they could have fixed it by now. Removing the pop-ups, or introducing a tick-box to permanently remove them is something that a 5 year old could add to the code, its not rocket science.
The fact that Adobe have not fixed it yet speaks badly for Adobe. There is no other way to see it.