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Over the decades, I've come to think that two of my main purposes in life are to (a) push InDesign to the limits and beyond (Slower than molasses in February! Freeze! Crash!), and then (b) get help from the experts on this forum on how to deal with it. This is the third in a series entitled "InDesign Best Practices" in which I hope to give back to the forum, specifically to newbies like I was, with the benefit of my painful experiences. And, as usual, to probably get some corrections and additions from the real experts on this forum.
Note that the title is not just "Long Documents." I put that there because I think people may search on that term. But if you have a long document that is just text, without any crosslinks, hyperlinks, or linked graphics, you probably won't have much in the way of the (Slower than molasses in February! Freeze! Crash!) type of problems this post is designed to help you avoid. But as soon as you start putting in things other than simple text, InDesign starts having to work harder. A large document such as I'm well-known on this forum for making (Slower than molasses in February! Freeze! Crash!) need not be all that long, if you load it up with computationally-complex things that make InDesign really work for its money. And, after all, if your long document is just text, why not just do it in a word processor? Page-layouty things like graphics and useful things such as internal Cross-Reference are the kind of computationally-intense things that InDesign is InDesigned for. So, here goes. If you have a document you just can't hardly edit at all, you might see one of these threads:
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A couple of comments…
Graphics:
TIFF files support transparency too. PNG files only support RGB and Grayscale; if you need CMYK or Black-only line art, use PSD or TIFF.
Sync. Styles:
It would make sense that it would not sync deletions. How would ID know if it was a deletion vs. a style that is unique to a single document? HOWEVER, I could see a Global Style Rename or Delete function being very handy.
TOC:
I’ve never had a problem with the TOC, even for bilingual (two TOCs) and 1000-page books. The error is usually in the style management/naming between documents.
Stories:
I’ve had (by necessity) documents that were over 350 pages as part of a larger book. The documents were slow to respond, but that was because of the linked graphics. As I test, I removed the graphics and the files were very “spiffy” when navigating and editing. Since it is greatly dependent on computer setup, one’s mileage may vary.
One should also mention the availability of Adobe FrameMaker. While it formatting is basic compared to InDesign, its long-document features exceed InDesign’s, especially the Book panel.
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Thanks very much for your expertise and comments! Just what I was hoping for. I have one advantage over you and the other experts: I make a lot more mistakes and end up discovering things I have to fix, so I can relate the fix to others. I agree that linked graphics are the major source of (Slower than molasses in February! Freeze! Crash!) However, the chapters in my textbook have lots of cross-references, and given that, I've found that, even after fixing all graphics issues, I had to break the chapters up from one Story to several Stories to prevent (Slower than molasses in February! Freeze! Crash!) If you don't have lots of cross-references, your mileage may vary.
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Hi Keith; thanks for sharing yout experiences. I have a question. i have a book files with 12 files. the full book is over 500 pages with lots and lots of High res pictures and lots of crossreferences. But when i need to add 2 more pages in the first file then i found it very hard to work in a book files because it alters all the other files and it takes indesign a lot of time to change the files from the book. do you have any suggestions to make this faster? the files varie from 12 to 100 pages/file.
To be clear. i would love to use the book file but for this kind of work it's impossible.
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In the Book file's menu, go to Book Page Numbering Options and turn off Automatically Update Page and Section Numbers.
Make your changes. Adding an even amount of pages won't affect the rectro/verso flow of the pages.
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Well, I'm no expert, but I've been dealing with issues similar to yours for maybe a decade, also about 500 pages with lots of graphics and cross-links, but in my case just six chapters, so I will share some thoughts that might help.
First, my book is aimed at a creative commons license online set of PDFs only (maybe a website with HTML later). I originally planned to offer both a single volume PDF with all six chapters (BTW there are three other volumes I planned as separate PDFs), as well as individual chapters. However, just last week, I gave up on the idea of a single PDF for each volume. It's going to be way, way too big. Might make sense to do for sending for publishing to print, but not for my use case. I do explain to users that if they put all of the chapter PDFs in a single folder, the cross-links will still work (which they do fine last time I checked).
Second, a few years ago, I was trying to use the Book Panel as a way to easily open the appropriate chapters to edit as needed. It wasn't so easy, but now that I've done it, it makes accessing the chapters much easier. I'm on Windows, so I did the Registry hack to increas the JumpListItems to a monitor-appropriate number. (Just search for JumpListItems, you can make the tweak manually or there is a .reg file that you can download and will do it for you. If you're on Mac, maybe there is something equivalent) I then spent about five minutes doing the following:
Here is what the JumpList looks like when I'm done:
This is so much easier than trying to open from the Book Panel!
Now, as to, when you're editing one of your chapters, InDesign opens another chapter? Well, bad news. Even without using a Book Panel, if you have crosslinks from Chapter 1 to Chapter 2, and you edit one of thise crosslinks in Chapter 1, InDesign opens Chapter 2 in a new tab and makes the change there as well. You can save Chapter 2 and then close the tab and go back to editing Chapter 1.
Hope this helps.
Now if I can figure out how to add a sentence to my Chapter 4 without it going into a disk-swapping lockup (see https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/performance-and-hard-disk-swapping/m-p/14718137#...).
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@keithconover Keith, I'm not sure how this answers Bart's question. I read it as he needed to turn off auto-numbering/pagination as he made changes. Of course, one does have to update the number at some time, but it can be put off until convenient.
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Hmm, I thought it was more of a general performance issue. I decided to number my chapters separately to avoid that, so for instance, page 34 of chapter 2 is page 2-34. Given that my Table of Contents (both volume and individual chapters have a Table of Contents) is also a set of links, I don't see much need for whole-volume pagination. This avoids that whole-book page number thing. It should be possible to simply turn off whole-book pagination until you're completely done and the turn it back on again. That would eliminate a lot of the disk-whirring while editing.
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I've worked on multiple large documents up to 1000 pages that needed a whole-book TOC, so I used the method I described to save time.
Technically, you never have to turn the "automatic" setting back on--just update numbering by selecting the appropriate menu option.
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