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Indesign CC rendering Bitmap preview in low quality compared to CS6

New Here ,
Oct 07, 2018 Oct 07, 2018

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Hello,

We have being working with Indesign CS6 for a long time now. We work in the manga industry and recently we upgraded to CC. The thing is that manga images are all bitmap files. While working in CS6 the images look fine, but same files in CC look terrible.

Please find attached screen capture of same pages in both versions ID. Top one is CS6, bottom ones is CC 2018. Both Windows 10.

ID Prefereces are both set to High Quality Display and all quality settings for High Quality Display are set to the maximum.

For a long time, we have being resistant to change to CC because of this issue, but we work with lots of designer and we want to make use of the new features of recent versions of ID, but working with bitmap files is an every thing for us and it is really annoying to the eye.

This only happens with bitmap images, if we convert to grayscale, it looks good, but in professional manga industry, working with grayscale images is not an option for us.

Hope anyone can help us. Thanks a lot.

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Community Expert , Oct 30, 2018 Oct 30, 2018

Hi Carlos,

please do a bug report here:

Adobe InDesign Feedback

Come back when done and post the link to the report so that we can vote for fixing the issue.

Regards,
Uwe

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Community Expert ,
Oct 07, 2018 Oct 07, 2018

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I tried to reproduce your results using images of my own converted to bitmaps but did not have the same problems that you had? Is this happening on just one PC or on more than one? When you make the bitmaps what settings are you using?

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New Here ,
Oct 07, 2018 Oct 07, 2018

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Hi, Thanks for your reply.

This is happening in all my PCs. It is really annoying. We thought it might have to do with the Windows version of the program?

You can download a sample of files we use from the following URL: WeTransfer

It is a 600 dpi bitmap image.

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Oct 07, 2018 Oct 07, 2018

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I tested your image and it looked fine in InDesign CC 2018. But, unfortunately in this instance, I am on a Mac which supports your theory that it is a Windows 10 issue. Hopefully, someone more versed in Windows will respond for you with a solution.

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New Here ,
Oct 07, 2018 Oct 07, 2018

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Yes. Our files look good on Illustrator, Photoshop, etc. The issue only happens in Indesign.

Thank you so much for your interest and taking the time to reply.

Hope somebody with Windows version of Indesign CC can help.

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Oct 07, 2018 Oct 07, 2018

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Please note my last post was about testing a bitmap import in InDesign on a Mac. I initially typed Illustrator but fixed it as soon as I realized. Bitmaps in CC InDesign on a Mac do seem to display OK.

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New Here ,
Oct 08, 2018 Oct 08, 2018

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We are suspecting is the anti-aliasing setting which is not working for bitmaps in ID CC.

Anybody, please? =?

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Community Expert ,
Oct 22, 2018 Oct 22, 2018

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Hi Carlos,

I'm willing to test this on my Windows 10 machine.

InDesign CS6, CC all versions are installed.

Unfortunately your sample bitmap is not available anymore.

Regards,
Uwe

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New Here ,
Oct 24, 2018 Oct 24, 2018

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Hi Laubender!

Thank you very much. Please find the files on this new link: WeTransfer

Best,

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Community Expert ,
Oct 25, 2018 Oct 25, 2018

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Hi Carlos,

yes, I can see the difference with CS6 and newer versions of InDesign.

The difference in display started with InDesign CC 2015.

Here a screenshot from CC 2015.4 version 11.4.1.102. I have marked degardation of the rendering.

The screenshot is taken just after placing the images:

CC-2015.4.1-DisplayIssuesBitmaps.PNG

In versions CC 2017 and CC 2018 you already can see the same.

And also with CC 2019.

Below some samples from InDesign CC 2017.1.

Note, that I changed the position of the view on the spread a bit using the Hand tool.

This betters parts of the screen rendering. But only parts. No problems with rendering in CS6, CC 9.3.0 and CC 2014.4.

CC-2018.1-DisplayIssuesBitmaps-1.PNG

CC-2018.1-DisplayIssuesBitmaps-2.PNG

CC-2018.1-DisplayIssuesBitmaps-3.PNG

A spare you the screenshots from  CC 2018. They are just like the same.

FWIW: Here finally is one from CC 2019:

CC-2019.0-DisplayIssuesBitmaps-1.PNG

So the consistency for rendering bitmaps is an issue since version CC 2015.

If you have the chance revert to InDesign CS6, CC 9.3.0 or CC 2014.2.

Tested on Windows 10 German.

Regards,
Uwe

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New Here ,
Oct 30, 2018 Oct 30, 2018

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I have the same problem and cannot find a solution.

Bitmaps are not displayed on the screen as in Photoshop.

This is extremely annoying for me! Especially in large format you have to print or write PDF files all the time to check the bitmap.

Something has to happen... it can't stay that way!!

Regards

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New Here ,
Oct 30, 2018 Oct 30, 2018

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It is really annoying.

The thing is that it seems to only happen in Windows version because Mac version supports GPU acceleration and antialiasing works better...

I got in contact with Adobe support at the same time as I open this forum topic and they say they would try to fix it... But that's all.

It is really annoying and I cancelled my subscription to CC because of it...

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Oct 30, 2018 Oct 30, 2018

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Hi Carlos,

please do a bug report here:

Adobe InDesign Feedback

Come back when done and post the link to the report so that we can vote for fixing the issue.

Regards,
Uwe

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Oct 30, 2018 Oct 30, 2018

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carloss62701757  wrote

… It is really annoying and I cancelled my subscription to CC because of it...

You still can work with bitmaps in CS6, CC 9.3.0 or CC 2014.2.

And it's no problem to run the said versions on Windows 10.

Regards,
Uwe

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New Here ,
Oct 30, 2018 Oct 30, 2018

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The thing is that we already have a license of CS6 and we feel dumb paying for a subscription and not being able to use the latest version of ID and all the new features...

I will report the bug though. Hope they fix it someday...

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New Here ,
Oct 19, 2022 Oct 19, 2022

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We are at the end of 2022 and it's still a problem with the newest version (18.0), what a shame.

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