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Is it possible to hide pages?

Engaged ,
Apr 24, 2020 Apr 24, 2020

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Hi,

using CC/WIn10

 

Sometimes I create variations of one page and at the end / in the further progress the not-favorited pages will be removed.

Is it possible to exclude these pages from the numbering, so that the page number references (after these pages) do not change?

 

Thanks!

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Guide ,
Apr 24, 2020 Apr 24, 2020

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If you are doing page numbering the standard way, you are placing a text frame on the master page, and inserting the page-number character (Type>Insert Special Character>Markers>Current Page Number). Any document pages that have that master page applied will show the current page number. To not have a page number on some pages, apply a different master page that doesn't have the page-number text frame on it. If you want several numbered pages, followed by some un-numbered pages, and then some numbered pages again, you can re-start page numbering on a particular document page at what ever would have been the next number in your sequence in the Numbering and Section Options of the Pages window. Keep in mind that if you are in a facing-pages document, inserting an odd number of pages between two consecutive pages will change which side of the fold subsequent pages will be on, so having your variations sprinkled throughout your document will mean you will have to undo sections at some point, and if that's OK with you, you can certainly do that, but I probably wouldn't want to do tha myself. Have you considered doing your alternate pages as layers on the pages they are alternates of? That might save you some work.

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Enthusiast ,
Apr 24, 2020 Apr 24, 2020

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There are at least a couple of ways you could do this—Numbering and Section Options or Create Alternate Layout, but I would probably go with the first option to keep things somewhat simple. Using Numbering and Section Options allows you to keep the page variations next to each other. For example, if you want to create three different cover page designs, you can do the following:

 

1. Select and Right + click on page 1 and uncheck Allow Document Pages to Shuffle.


2. Select and Right + click on spread 2-3 and uncheck Allow Document Pages to Shuffle and Allow Selected Spread to Shuffle.


3. Right + click again on spread 2-3 and choose Numbering and Section Options. Set the value the Start Section > Start Page Numbering field to 2.

Screenshot 2020-04-24 17.19.01.png

 

4. Right + click on page 1 and choose Insert Pages and add 2 pages.

 

The pages will come in as part of the page 1 spread. If you wish to separate them so they appear as individual pages, click and drag each page to the right until you see a straight line appear in the panel.

Screenshot 2020-04-24 17.29.56.png

Screenshot 2020-04-24 17.19.37.png

 

Deleting any of the cover page variations will not affect the rest of the document numbering.

Screenshot 2020-04-24 17.20.21.png

 

Create Alternate Layout was intended for creating alternate vertical and horizontal layouts for digital publications, but it can also be used for this purpose, although it places any alternate pages at the end of the document and adds some complexity. It does allow you to link stories so that if you change text in original, it can be automatically updated in any variations. See Adobe's help page for more information. https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/alternate-layouts-liquid-layouts.html#id_84683

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Community Expert ,
Apr 24, 2020 Apr 24, 2020

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Hiding pages - not sure exactly if this is what you want.

But I often get requested to remove entire pages - which isn't an issue - but I simply drag them to the Master Pages - then delete the page from the dcoument

 

If they want it restored - I'll just drag back to the pages into the position they want it.

Not the cleanest but works.

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Explorer ,
Oct 27, 2021 Oct 27, 2021

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Excelent method. Just used it myself. Thanks! 👍🏻

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New Here ,
Aug 12, 2022 Aug 12, 2022

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This is great. Thanks a lot!

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Community Beginner ,
May 03, 2023 May 03, 2023

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This is a great approach because, unlike alternate layouts, it doesn't show the removed pages in "Share for Review".

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Participant ,
Jun 30, 2023 Jun 30, 2023

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Thank you for the valuable tips! I had no idea the master page section could hide pages. It's been a game-changer for my annual report. Your great idea helps me hide uncertain content that may need to be restored later. Thanks again for your guidance!

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Engaged ,
May 02, 2020 May 02, 2020

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Thanks for all your reponses! But I need some time to process it 😉

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Community Expert ,
May 02, 2020 May 02, 2020

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Another vote for alternative layouts.

David Creamer: Community Expert (ACI and ACE 1995-2023)

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Oct 10, 2023 Oct 10, 2023

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Explorer ,
Oct 11, 2023 Oct 11, 2023

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Wonderful! 🙂

 

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Community Expert ,
Oct 11, 2023 Oct 11, 2023

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I'm not sure if the Hide Spreads feature will do exactly what the OP is looking for (although I might be wrong). There's also an entire thread in the prerelease forum on why this feature's name is misleading:

 

https://forums.adobeprerelease.com/indesign/discussion/2356/hide-spreads-is-not-hide-spreads

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Engaged ,
Oct 12, 2023 Oct 12, 2023

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Yes, it's not exactly what I want. But a step in the right direction 😉

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Participant ,
Oct 12, 2023 Oct 12, 2023

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Thank you for the super useful new updated Hide-page function! Now I don't need to put the hide page into master page or copy the page into another file!

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New Here ,
Oct 18, 2023 Oct 18, 2023

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i was excited for this feature, downloaded the beta Indesign and it's not there. What happened? 

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Community Expert ,
Oct 18, 2023 Oct 18, 2023

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What version do you have? It's in v19.0, 2024.


┋┊ InDesign to Kindle (& EPUB): A Professional Guide, v3.1 ┊ (Amazon) ┊┋

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Oct 18, 2023 Oct 18, 2023

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i just looked it up and its version 18.9

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Explorer ,
Oct 18, 2023 Oct 18, 2023

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Finally Adobe have listened! 🕺New in InDesign 2024, Hide spreads. Select page or spread in the Pages panel, right click and select "Hide spread"., and the hidden pages won't be included in the export. Just updated and haven't tested it yet though, so I can't speak about the page numbering.

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Community Expert ,
Oct 18, 2023 Oct 18, 2023

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It's a useful but very limited feature. It hides only a spread, not a page (unless you have single-page spreads). It does not remove the pages from the document or in any way mark or flag them as hidden except with a small icon on the page thumbnail in the Pages pane. It does not adjust page numbering. The limitations for paginated documents (as opposed to, say, presentations or other un-numbered document styles) and the potential for confusion (since very little indicates what pages are hidden) have been noted and discussed in another thread, with official Adobe notice.


┋┊ InDesign to Kindle (& EPUB): A Professional Guide, v3.1 ┊ (Amazon) ┊┋

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Community Expert ,
Oct 18, 2023 Oct 18, 2023

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Yeh it's quite rudimentary.

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Explorer ,
Oct 18, 2023 Oct 18, 2023

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So, I guess it only eliminates the fiddling with page range in export then. A pity they couldn't give the function a little more options, but at least a step in the right direction.

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Community Expert ,
Oct 18, 2023 Oct 18, 2023

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It's still in development I believe - so this is first step. 

Maybe new features later on - maybe not. Who knows.

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Community Expert ,
Oct 18, 2023 Oct 18, 2023

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Adding more visibility (such as tinting or watermarking doc pages that are hidden) is fairly trivial. Having it adjust page numbering... might be more involved.

 

But right now, I envision a cave man flipping a light switch... "Now you see me. Now you don't. Now you see me..."


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Explorer ,
Oct 18, 2023 Oct 18, 2023

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Lol 😂

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