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Outline text with bullets & numbering

Community Beginner ,
Jun 26, 2018 Jun 26, 2018

I can't seem to outline bullets and numbering along with text in Indesign cc 2018. Once I click "create outlines" bullets and numbering would disappear. Is it just me? Does anyone else experience this issue?

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Community Expert , Jun 26, 2018 Jun 26, 2018

Why you would like to outline any text is beyond me.

But if you must, try the following:

  1. Select the Numbered or Bulleted paragraphs.
  2. Under the Options menu of the Paragraph panel, choose either "Convert Numbering to Text" OR "Convert Bullets to Text."
  3. Outline your text and the numbers or bullet will not disappear, they will be outlined.
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Jun 26, 2018 Jun 26, 2018

Like the others who have responded to you, I will note that “outlining text” is an exceptionally poor workflow practice. The exceptions are:

(1)     You need to achieve some artistic effect with some limited text that cannot otherwise be achieved with other InDesign effects that work with text.

(2)     You need vectors for purposes of sending artwork to sign cutting or similar systems that cannot handle text as realized via fonts.

The fact that you are concerned about full paragraphs with bullets a

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Community Expert , Jun 25, 2021 Jun 25, 2021

defaultks8d4yvdbu1n said:

"For example Im working within the signage and wayfinding sector, I outline text daily."

Yes. Perfectly doable within Acrobat Pro with a loaded PDF exported from InDesign.

Here are the steps:

 

Open the exported PDF in Acrobat Pro DC.

Go to Print Production > Preflight

Select "Acrobat Pro DC 2015 Profiles".
Then list and select Single Fix Ups > Document > Convert fonts to outlines

 

Now run the single fix up with button Fix.

 

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Community Expert ,
Oct 05, 2023 Oct 05, 2023

No, that answers are correct. You can convert fonts correctly into paths, not in InDesign, but in Acrobat Pro. Do it there. This is the only way to do it without destroying the original and also involving objects from the master/parent pages, also involving footnotes and endnotes and cross references. 

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Community Expert ,
Oct 06, 2023 Oct 06, 2023

Very often cloud fonts just get dropped, so to convert to paths is the only way to "lock in" a design, unless you use Google fonts (which in general are much more reliable than Adobes chaotic font licensing)

 

If the font is missing outlining won’t help because—well the font is missing. None of Adobe’s fonts have embedding restrictions, so there should be no problem exporting a PDF with all the fonts embedded.

 

I really hope Adobe fixes this.

It will never happen

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Oct 06, 2023 Oct 06, 2023
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I really hope Adobe fixes this.

There is nothing to fix!

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New Here ,
Feb 23, 2024 Feb 23, 2024

Is there any way to stop other components from disappearing when converting a file to outlines in Indesign. I can see the fix for bullets, but what about underlines, tables and text that is on top of anchored filled-in boxes. All my artwork must be changed to outlines to prevent any interference with the files, as my artwork is regulated and approved before sending the printers. Will Adobe ever fix this problem?

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Community Expert ,
Feb 23, 2024 Feb 23, 2024
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As pointed out over and over and over again, there is nothing to fix. Read the entire discussion for your choices.

This discussion has long since run its course so I'm locking it.

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