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RaizelDesign
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January 4, 2018
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Paragraph Borders InDesign CC 2018

  • January 4, 2018
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Hey all!

I've got a paragraph style set to have a border on the left side and it's offset on top and bottom so that the line appears to be continuous for a certain section of paragraphs. Is there any way to have it not offset on the top when continuing onto a new page (i.e. new frame)? I see a "clip to frame" option for paragraph shading, but not paragraph border.

Any help is appreciated!

Thanks!

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RaizelDesign  wrote

How exactly would I go about putting in a request for this?

I think this was posted earlier, but here is again:

Adobe InDesign Feedback

Post the link so we can go back and vote for it!


Thanks!

Here it is:

Paragraph Border Controls when Split across Columns or Frames – Adobe InDesign Feedback

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Raphaël Freeman
Raphaël Freeman
Known Participant
March 14, 2018

I have the same problem too with borders and the March update doesn’t help. Actually in the case of the OP, there is a better solution – which only works in the case of the OP – you can use paragraph shading! Make the shading a narrow box on the left of the text and then you can do it.

However, the problem below cannot be fixed. On the top of the verso I have used the paragraph shading trick, but on the bottom of the verson and the top of the recto there is still no good solution. Yes a white box would help and honestly, never thought of that, so thank you, but REALLY – let's still an anchored white box to cut off the boxes?

Does Adobe not think things through till the end?

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LaubenderCommunity Expert
Community Expert
March 14, 2018

… Does Adobe not think things through till the end?

Hi Raphaël,

I made a recommendation and a feature request in that direction.
Not only a checkbox like [ ] Cut To Frame is needed. It would require some more control.

Maybe a "Cut to baseline" plus an edit field to add a value in minus and plus direction.

Regards,
Uwe

    Raphaël Freeman
    Raphaël Freeman
    Known Participant
    March 14, 2018

    yes I saw and I added my vote too!

    Barb Binder
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    Barb BinderCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    January 5, 2018

    And you may be gone for the day by now, RaizelDesign, leaving Uwe and I to talk amongst ourselves () but if the goal is change bars, you might add that as the feature request. FrameMaker (Adobe's other page layout program) has them—you can turn them on so they appear automatically when you edit a paragraph or on by paragraph tag.

    ~Barb

    ~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
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    Anonymous
    January 4, 2018

    Is it this what you want to achieve?

    It's done with Offset "Bottom" only and "Bottom Edge": Standard.

    If not, show a screenshot, where we can see what you want.

    Fenja

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    RaizelDesignAuthor
    Inspiring
    January 4, 2018

    Thanks, BarbBinder and fenjas29325284 I can't share a screenshot of the actual file right now - I don't have access to it right now. This is basically what I've got. There are different style paragraphs that all need to be part of one section (There are actually four, and one of them has paragraph shading applied and much more space before and after). It's a long, complicated book, part textbook, part workbook, with many styles of paragraphs all set into a single story. There's a new frame on each page.

    Thanks for the help!

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      RaizelDesignAuthor
      Inspiring
      January 5, 2018

      So are you doing this to indicate paragraphs that have been edited (Change bars)? And how many of these do you need?

      Just playing around with the new paragraph border seems tough to control for your needs and maybe an override is your best bet.

      Other ideas are anchored frames or put them on the master, and then override them when you edit the documents. None of these will update automatically though.

      ~Barb


      Hey,

      Yes, I couldn't get back to a computer until now. I do really appreciate the help.

      As I said, it's a sort of text book, and the side-rule is used to indicated a reading that includes a title, source, and the actual text in two languages. At times it overflows onto the next page. The line is always aligned to the baseline of the last line and the cap-height of the first line, so your first solution wouldn't work in this case. Laubender​ Uwe's suggestions

      A different control would be better:

      "If paragraph breaks between columns or frames" restrict border to:

      1. "baseline" of last line in text column

      2. "Cap Height" of first line in next column

      Plus maybe a value to offset this.

      would actually be exactly what's needed. Especially since the frame sometimes extends beyond the lines of text.

      How exactly would I go about putting in a request for this?

      Thanks so much!

        Barb Binder
        Community Expert
        Barb BinderCommunity Expert
        Community Expert
        January 4, 2018

        Can you please share a screen shot (or two) so that we can see what it looks like now, and what your border settings are?

        ~Barb

        ~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
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