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quotation mark problem

Explorer ,
Mar 28, 2024 Mar 28, 2024

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Hi,

Quotation marks appear distorted when text is italicized 

how do i solve this problem

I would be happy if you help

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Community Expert , Mar 30, 2024 Mar 30, 2024

For this - the optical alignment is off due to certain settings

 

Change the kerning option - here it's set to 0

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If you set it to optical it works well

 

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Mar 28, 2024 Mar 28, 2024

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Which Adobe app are you using?

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Mar 28, 2024 Mar 28, 2024

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Sory,

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Mar 28, 2024 Mar 28, 2024

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in the future, to find the best place to post your message, use the list here, https://community.adobe.com/

p.s. i don't think the adobe website, and forums in particular, are easy to navigate, so don't spend a lot of time searching that forum list. do your best and we'll move the post (like this one has already been moved) if it helps you get responses.



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Mar 29, 2024 Mar 29, 2024

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It's hard to guess exactly what's going on from your small screen snip, but —

  • The font or document could be corrupted;
  • The font kerning data may not accommodate the large swash F next to a quote mark (not every possible combination of characters is always mapped in kerning);
  • The italics may be applied only as far as the F, exaggerating the kerning collision with the non-italic quote mark.

 

On that last, I often see collision between a last italicized character and a next non-ital one, moreso in web text than in InDesign but it's not uncommon in any layout. (My solution in web design is to tack a few points of right-padding onto any italicized style, so that the next character is pushed over a bit, thus forcing something like desired or "normal" spacing.)

 

I think you may just have to fix this manually, or with a GREP style. It's unlikely there is any fix, per se; it's just an unlucky combination of fonts exceeding the limits of auto-spacing and kerning. Either a tracking value or inseting some width of space (from thin on up) would 'solve' the problem, if imperfectly.


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Mar 29, 2024 Mar 29, 2024

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hi mr.

Yes, I think it can be done manually as you said, it is entirely related to the font.

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Mar 29, 2024 Mar 29, 2024

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Hi @Harun 34:

 

It's just the shape/angle of the italicised letter f next to the apostrophe, which isn't in italics. Is there some reason that you wouldn't put italics on the apostrophe?

 

~Barb

 

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Mar 29, 2024 Mar 29, 2024

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hi barb,

 

Proper nouns will be written in italics, suffixes after the nouns will be regular, f' apostrophe will be regular

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Mar 29, 2024 Mar 29, 2024

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Ok. Well, nothing is actually distorted, it's just that the f is leaning to the right and the apostrophe is not getting out of the way because it is not italics.

 

Looking at my font, the f is only italic character that slants into the roman apostrophe. I manually edited the horizontal spacing (and added a color to help you see it), saved it as a character style and assigned the character style as a GREP style to the f'.

 

~Barb

 

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Mar 30, 2024 Mar 30, 2024

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For this - the optical alignment is off due to certain settings

 

Change the kerning option - here it's set to 0

EugeneTyson_1-1711792234139.png

 

If you set it to optical it works well

 

EugeneTyson_4-1711792279034.png

 

 

 

 

 

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Apr 22, 2024 Apr 22, 2024

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thanks thankst hanks

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