Right align endnote numbers

[Lanimoomoo]

When I use a tab as a prefix in the Endnote Options and set up a right align tab in my paragraph style so the note numbers will be right aligned the first line of the note does not justify correctly. What I've figured out is that when I put the tab in the prefix the first line does not rejustify, it just takes the text that would be on the line without the tab and smashes it all together. Has anyone else experienced this, and do you know how I can fix this without having to insert figure spaces before every note?

I have attached 3 images, one the way it should look like (with figure spaces in front of the number to get the numbers to somewhat right align), one the way it looks with the tab in the prefix box in the Endnote Options, and one the way it looks without the tab so you can see the line breaks are the same as the one with the tab.

[Laubender]

Hi Lanimoomoo ,

do you mean that you want to format your endnote numbers this way?

I could do this by using a tab as prefix in the Endnotes Options:

You then have to carefully choose your values for tabs in the paragraph style for the endnotes' text:

As first line indent I have -7 mm, the tab is right aligned at position +5 mm and the indent for all other lines is +7 mm.

Regards,
Uwe

[Lanimoomoo]

Hi Uwe,

Thanks for replying.

My problem is not setting up the numbers, the problem is the kerning of the first line of the note for notes longer than 1 line. My 1st attachment was to show you how it is supposed to look, see note #1, the line ends with "Shin-". In the 2nd and 3rd attachment note #1 ends with Shinshu, but in the 2nd attachment the line is all bunched up.  Do you have any ideas on how to fix or work around this using the instructions you posted?

Wanda

[Laubender]

Hi Wanda,

if you look closely to my sample screenshots you may notice that there is a second line of text in every paragraph.

And that will align to the the first one optically ( without the number and the tab ).

Your samples are too low res to judge kerning.

I can only see that your number 6 is off in the second sample.

Maybe the reason for that is an extra blank before the tab?

If you do screenshots like that show the page in InDesign with all hidden characters and frame edges showing.

Select some text and show the tab settings of your paragraph style like I did. And do your screenshots with higher resolution.

Thanks,
Uwe

[Lanimoomoo]

Hi Uwe,

But your first line of text does not extend out to the right margin and run over to the second line. 

I am attaching a link to a folder with pdf samples. The note # of note 6 is not an issue, this was just a samplle.

Indesign note alignment - Google Drive

Wanda

[Laubender]

Hi Wanda,

what you like to achieve is a better composition of fully justified text.

You can control that with a mix of settings in the paragraph style.

Especially see for spacing and hyphenation.

Show your settings of the applied paragraph style.

Or upload the document for inspection at your Dropbox account or a similar service and post the download link.

Regards,
Uwe

[Lanimoomoo]

Hi Uwe,

Ok, I have packaged the 3 Indesign sample files.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1HnwWe2ZDe_2W4J9xMzpDngOICRiYitiZ

The paragraph style is NTX.

What I want is to use the tab in the prefix field in the Endnote Options and have the line breaks be the same as the "sample with inserted figure spaces folder" file.

Thanks for your help.

Wanda

ps my indesign version is 13.1 x64

[Laubender]

Hi Wanda,

with document sample with tab.indd and endnote texts 3 and 4 you have an override of the paragraph style for characters with value -5 for tracking. That's why the text is so dense. You can visualize character and paragraph style overrides if you toggle the [+] button in Character Styles panel or Paragraph Styles panel when in "Normal" view mode.

Regards,
Uwe

[Lanimoomoo]

Hi Uwe,

For note number 3 even if you take off the -5 tracking the first line is still too tight, and there is no -5 tracking for notes 1, 2, 7, and 8 and they look like there is negative tracking applied to the first line. Especially note number 8, where visually there doesn't seem to be any word spacing for the first line.

[Laubender]

You need only one single tab, a right alignment one, to get the numbering right.

With your document's paragraph style there are two tabs defined. Just do only one like I did.

Again see my first reply with the screenshots.

1. There is one tab defined as prefix in the endnote preferences.

2. The tab in the paragraph style is positioned between the negative first line indent and the positive all lines indent.

I think, that's all what it takes to make it work.

Regards,
Uwe

[Lanimoomoo]

You need only one single tab, a right alignment one, to get the numbering right.

With your document's paragraph style there are two tabs defined. Just do only one like I did.

**the second tab was an error, when I delete it the text still looks the same.

Again see my first reply with the screenshots.

1. There is one tab defined as prefix in the endnote preferences.

2. The tab in the paragraph style is positioned between the negative first line indent and the positive all lines indent.

**this is how the endnote options are set up for sample with tab.indd

Here is a screenshot of the endnote options for this file.