Space before/after for placed text with hard

[mickyhulse]

What is the best way to handle placed text that looks like:

Page: 1

Title: This is the title

Date: 2016

Artist: John Doe

Credit: John Doe

Source: https://site.com/

http://site.com/x

Page: 2

Title: This is the title

Date: 2016

Artist: John Doe

Credit: John Doe

Source: https://site.com/

http://site.com/x

Page: 3

Title: This is the title

Date: 2016

Artist: John Doe

Credit: John Doe

Source: https://site.com/

http://site.com/x

I am placing this text into a 3-column layout master frame, so the text spans all columns and multiple pages.

I am trying to avoid spacing issues by using "space after" (or "before").

Unfortunately, when placed, I get this:

I would like my text to look like this (after being placed):

In the screen shot directly above, in order to get the related text bits to group together, I had to manually insert a "Forced Line Break" (Shift + Return) between the lines of related text.

Note that my paragraph style, for both screenshots above, uses space after to control paragraph spacing:

Question(s):

Is it possible for me to place the above text and have it look like the last screen shot as seen above?

If so, how?

From what I can tell, other than using a tagged text file (which I would like to avoid), I'll have to do some find/replace regex work on the placed text in order to get the results I want?

Any tips would be appreciated.

[tpk1982]

Is it you using only one paragraph style?

[mickyhulse]

Hi Tpk1982, thanks so much for the reply, I really appreciate the help.

tpk1982 wrote:

Is it you using only one paragraph style?

Yep, just one paragraph style so far. The bold parts are grep styles and I have the baseline grid setup.

With that said, it looks like vinny38​'s suggestion will work pretty good!

Seems like I won't be able to avoid doing a find/replace unless I head the tagged text route? Thankfully find/replace is quick, and I can save the searches to make it even easier, so I think that's going to work well for my workflow.

Thanks again to both of you for the help!

I'll be back soon to report my findings.

[vinny38 · Accepted solution]

Hi

There are many ways to achieve what you want. This is the one I would use:

First, make sure you don't use double line breaks nor forced-returns.

Then, create two paragraph styles: i.e. "normal" and "1st line".

Set up "normal" style without space after/before.

If you want it aligned on baseline grid, make sure baseline grid leading is set to - at least - the same leading value as your paragraph style. Note: this explains why leading "looks" so big your first screenshot. Choose "View > Grids & Guides > Show/Hide Baseline Grid" for a better understanding.

Tip: you might want to use GREP in order to set "Page:", "Title:" etc. to bold

Then, set up "1st Line" paragraph style with a space before (any would do if aligned on baseline grid).

Finally, use a simple search/replace in order to apply "1st line" par. style to all paragraphs including "page" text:

Tip: Use Keep option in order to avoid "Page: x" to stand alone at the bottom of a column

You're done.

As I said before, this is one method, not the only one. (I don't like forced-returns, but you could also use them, using another method based on single paragraphs > Better if you want to avoid breaking)

Hope that helps

Regards

[mickyhulse]

vinny38 wrote:

Hi

There are many ways to achieve what you want. This is the one I would use: <snip>

Thanks so much Vinny! I really appreciate the help.

I am trying your suggestions now and will report back my findings (looks like it's going to work pretty well).

Thanks much!!!

[mickyhulse]

That worked really well! Thank you vinny38​! I really appreciate the help!

The only change I made was to use Grep for the search as it ended up being much faster: