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Tjerk OTB
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May 29, 2019
Question

Weird word break problem

  • May 29, 2019
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Hi All,

I have a question about some recent Indesign behavior. I am writing a book in Dutch and currently rechecking grammar. Somehow, a problem arose. I have word breaks on. So at the end of a sentence, when the word does not fit on the line, it breaks the word. Maybe something like this.

I have a pro-

blem with Indesign.

But what happens when I add an extra word is the following.

I have a new

pro-blem with Indesign.

So it does not update correctly, so it seems. I have made a video to help show the problem.

Probleem Woordafbreking Indesign - YouTube

Hope Someone could help me with this problem.

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Dennis_Z
Known Participant
August 28, 2023

A little late to the party but ended up here while Googling something. I also had this issue with Dutch and eventually found something that worked for me. So if you ever stumble on this again maybe it helps.

Window > Type & Tables > Paragraph

Venster > Teken & Tabellen > Alinea

 

And then on the dropdown on the top right (menu for more options) > change the composer and see if that works.

jane-e
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 30, 2019

Hi tjerk,

Barb is asking if the hyphens were entered manually. It certainly looks like they are. Missing from your video is the original typing of those two words, so we can’t verify.

When the dash, or hyphen, key is pressed to hyphenate a word, it causes the problem you are seeing. Delete those manual hyphens and enable hyphenation. Adjust the settings in the panel Barb is showing.

~ Jane

Jongware
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 30, 2019

jane-e  wrote

Hi tjerk,

Barb is asking if the hyphens were entered manually. It certainly looks like they are. Missing from your video is the original typing of those two words, so we can’t verify.

Even worse, it looks like there is a manually typed hyphen followed by a space. This has nothing to do with InDesign's hyphenation. Remove all of those manually typed hyphens and just let InDesign do its job.

You are most certainly not fully at the mercy of the automatic hyphenation algorithm. If InDesign adds a hyphen to a word you don't want to break, or it's in an unfavourable place, you can select the entire word and select "No Break" or insert a soft hyphen before its first character (Ctrl+Shift+hyphen) to avoid breaking, or insert a soft hyphen anywhere else at a position of your preference. If you find InDesign has a constant problem with a certain word that does not abide to common hyphenation rules, you can easily add it to the dictionary, with or without any breaking points.

See the Online Help for all of this (and some more) in Dutch: Tekstcompositie uitvoeren en woordafbreking toepassen in Adobe InDesign

Barb Binder
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 29, 2019

Hi tjerk otb:

Is hyphenation activated for the paragraph style? (bottom row) If you deactivate the hyphenation checkbox, do the hyphens disappear or were they entered manually?

Are you referencing the correct language dictionary? (bottom row)

What are your hyphenation settings? (Control panel menu > Hyphenation)

~Barb

~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
Tjerk OTB
Tjerk OTBAuthor
Participant
May 30, 2019

Hi Barbbinder,

I did not enter the hyphens manually, that's the thing. I do have to mention that I tried to add page numbers to my book and used the A-Masters to add them. I applied this to all pages, but somehow this didn't work. I did not add any hyphens manually. It seems that the hyphens that were made in the text were made permanent by some action i did. If I write a new word that breaks and try the same I did in the video, it does fix. The hyphenation is on. If I turn it off, all my text goes blank. Any ideas on how these particular breaks got permanent?

jane-e
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 30, 2019

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Tjerk+OTB  wrote

I do have to mention that I tried to add page numbers to my book and used the A-Masters to add them. I applied this to all pages, but somehow this didn't work.

If your page numbers are not sorted yet, can you start a new thread for this?