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Color Settings - Reverting to Emulate Adobe Indesign 2.0 CMS Off

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March 17, 2021
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Hi - My color settings keep reverting from 'North America General Purpose 2' to 'Emulate Adobe Indesign 2.0 CMS Off' - this is occuring frequently. I am using MacOS Big Sur 11.0.1 and Indesign 16.1. I have not had this issue occur previously.

Any help appreciated - thanks.

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Correct answer rob day

It might actually be this:

⁨Users⁩ ▸ ⁨username ▸ ⁨Library⁩ ▸ ⁨Preferences⁩ ▸ ⁨Adobe⁩ ▸ ⁨Color ▸ ⁨ACEConfigCache2.lst

https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign/photoshop-update-causes-indesign-color-management-settings-to-be-reset/td-p/11891667

rob day

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I don’t think the bug is related to sync’ing—the latest update(s) seem to turn off CM in InDesign and Illustrator whether you sync or not.

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Laubender

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Hi alison.aaha,

there is no need to synch color management via Adobe Bridge

It could be convenient, yes, but there is no need to do this.

InDesign, Illustrator and PhotoShop, they all share the same panel when you have to switch to a different color setting.

The most options to define a custom color setting and save it as csf file is with PhotoShop. So define the csf in PhotoShop and load it with InDesign, Illustrator and PhotoShop.

However, you should look into your crashing issues with Adobe Bridge.

But this here is the wrong forum to do this. Better ask here in the Bridge Forum:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/bridge/bd-p/bridge?page=1&sort=latest_replies&filter=all

And with all related questions for color managements go to:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/color-management/bd-p/Color-Management?page=1&sort=latest_replies&filter=all

Ah. There is already a thread underway that could be very interesting for all facing that bug:

Color settings (from Bridge: Synchronize settings) change all the time
massimob47359698, Mar 12, 2021

https://community.adobe.com/t5/color-management/color-settings-from-bridge-synchronize-settings-change-all-the-time/td-p/11890733

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

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Brad @ Roaring Mouse

Community Expert

Yes, there's no NEED to use Bridge, but it does help when setting the same set of settings across the suite.

What I noticed when I was dealing with this issue on Mar 12 (after the latest updates), is that none of the programs, including Bridge, would keep any attempt to change settings back to what they should have been. In my case, I have a Custom set I use across the suite. After the bug, Bridge had reset to one of the built in sets, and the individual apps reset to diffrent ones.

Once I deleted the Cache file, I was able to reset to my Custom set in Bridge, and behold, all the other programs popped back to my Custom settings without even touching them individually.

I've been fine ever since, and without doing the Photoshop rollback that was suggested.

rob day

Community Expert

Both yes and no. Technically it is not what settings you are using, or how you are managing colour. But in order to find the problem you would need to trrack the workflow to find which process (most likely outside of InDesign triggers this problem). If you are syncing colour settings, InDesign is no longer managing the colours, it is some other program/service/application. Is this a problem with Bridge? Is it a problem with another software writing colour settings in a way that it cannot be parsed ot pushed to indesign in a way that it can be interpreted causing InDesign to revert to a basic setting? It is a management problem.

It is a workflow issue because you have more than one app being involved… is not that what syncig means. The hard part about finding the issue is that if profiles are being synced… there needs to be a "master" that is being followed. If InDesign loses its colour settings, the bug may be in bridge, how bridge "pushes" the synchronisation, and we may not finde the error in InDesign, but another application. (If you have worked with long documents and the book function in InDesign you will be aware of how sychronising can be a blessing and/or a curse.)

I am not trying to say it is not a problem. For the person having the issue it is a real problem… but we can only see the symptom, not the cause. To understand the cause we need to look wider. I was trying to highlight why syncing is problematic to highlight the processes involved in a production, and hoping it would help users to find the pattern that initiated the fault.

I never use Bridge to sync and I got the bug after the last Photoshop update.

Sync’ing in general would never cause problems with existing InDesign documents because the profiles and color management policies are assigned and saved with the document when it is created. Unless the CM Policies were set to Off on document creation, sync’ing would have no affect on existing documents—all it does is set your color management preferences for newly created documents.

The Emulate InDesign 2.0 CM Off bug does have real world consequences for existing and new documents. If you Export to PDF/X-4, you might not notice that the Standard is set to None and think everything will export correctly, but there will be no Output Intent Profile included with the PDF, and more importantly any RGB objects will have their assigned profiles stripped (with CM Off, all RGB exports as DeviceRGB) making it impossible to get an accurate, color managed conversion to CMYK on output.

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alison.aaha

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I'm also having this same issue. I deleted the "ACEConfigCache2.lst" file and tried opening Bridge but it won't open. It keeps freezing.

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ercee89857529

Inspiring

I came across this aswell the last few days and deleting the folder didn´t help me. I usually spread my set profile via Bridge, but this time it seems it doesn´t help.

What I found out is that every single time I changed the profile back to it´s supposed one in Indesign and simply changed into Photoshop and went back to Indesign the Profile got deactivated again. Making me suspision I looked into Photoshop and found out that my profile was not set correctly in there.

It seems that the Bridge did not spread my settings to Photoshop. I changed the profile in PS manually and - WOW - Indesign does not deactivate the profile anymore.

Maybe this helps