P: Gen Remove now changes elements outside the painted mask

[Thomas Steen Petersen]

The update to the Generative Remove AI model in Lightroom Classic 14.5 has ruined it, as it now changes elements outside the painted mask, making it more or less unusable in many situations.

[johnrellis]

@Moritz Weiss: "This might be a bug but how can I fix it?"

Adobe changed the underlying Firefly Remove in the August release of the Lightroom ecosystem (LR Classic 14.5).  An intentional change was to make it unnecessary to select the shadows and reflections cast by the object being removed -- something that tripped up lots of people who didn't take the 10 minutes to learn how to use the tool.

But it seems that an unintentional side effect was to generate replacements that exceeded the selected boundaries much more than the previous version.  It's not noticeable on many (most?) removes, but as you can see in this thread, there are a fair number of complaints about it.

Adobe as marked this as a "bug" with Status: Investigating, which is good.

Unfortunately, no one has posted reliable a reliable workaround other than rolling back to LR 14.4.  If you roll back to LR 14.4, there's no guarantee that LR 15 (likely due in October) will fix the problem.

[krishna.singh]

No worries. I have got the images from Anshul_Saini.

Thank you

[Ainjel]

Why is it that when I select an area now, it will remove and change a much larger area than selected? It's distorting images, totally ruins eyes, hair, fingers and do not even get me started on fingernails. Last year around this time, I had no issues. Everything worked well, the remove tool was great and worked ONLY in the selected area. Now this is not even worth paying for and I am disgusted at the amount of money people are putting into something that is getting significantly worse and worse with every single update. Guess it's time to look for an editing software that cares about their product working well for their paying customers. 

[krakozavr@gmail.com]

You created a great too, which changed and simplified our workflows, and now you broke it - and for week no fixes? People are working here, trying to meet deadlines which was set taking into account available tools. 
You broken it - revert it from backup to a working version, then study it forever with betatesters BUT LET US WORK.

this nightmage must be end ASAP.
Yes, I can do this job и hands as I did since Photoshop 3.15 - but it is not a point.

[krakozavr@gmail.com]

it sounds like Adobe is playing with lazy beginners who aren't reads manuals and instructions, providing them with a "better tools" and messing with the power users who knows how to use it and building workflow on it - and Adobe is OK with that.

[divozenka]

Version 8.5.1, Build 20250821-1541-c6398d5
Platform: Windows 11 Home, 24H2, Build 26100.4946

I used to rely on AI removal tool for subtle retouches of small imperfections in portraits, especially for removing fine hairs crossing the face. Since the latest update, however, the AI has started recreating much broader areas than intended, often producing very messy and unnatural results.

For example, when a hair crosses the teeth, the tool now renders the teeth black or completely distorts the facial expression.

This makes the feature essentially unusable for professional retouching, as it damages rather than improves the image.

👉Is there any way to downgrade to the previous version where the AI removal worked reliably?

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

@Thomas Steen Petersen  I recieved your link - The link is not working. 

[marinap58771749]

The new 10.5 and 10.5.1 updates are just terrible. The Generative AI Remove tool doesn’t work at all anymore. When you drag the cursor to select an area you want to remove or improve, the tool now grabs way beyond the selection and completely distorts everything around it. It’s beyond frustrating! Just a few weeks ago this tool was fantastic, and now Lightroom on iPad has become almost unusable. Honestly, we’re paying for a monthly subscription, and instead of improvements, we’re stuck with an update that makes the app useless.

[Thomas Steen Petersen]

@Rikk Flohr: Photography 
The link to the examples has expired, but your colleague @Anshul_Saini downloaded them and mentioned in a PM that he would share them in your internal group chat. @krishna.singh has them as well.
Let me know if you’d like me to create a new download link or provide more examples.

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

@Thomas Steen Petersen, it's not necessary if someone already has them. I was out for a week, and the link must have expired during that time. 

[Thomas Steen Petersen]

@Rikk Flohr: Photography 

I truly appreciate that Adobe is already looking into this issue. For many of us, it’s a serious challenge because the Remove Tool always behaved perfectly in all versions before 14.5. I can’t revert to 14.4 due to another serious bug, and going back to 14.3.1 would mean losing several other valuable new Lightroom features—so it feels like having to choose between two less than ideal options. I sincerely hope a fix can be prioritized soon so we can regain the previous accuracy of the Remove Tool while keeping all the new functionality, as this would make a huge difference for so many users.

[Jonathan_Seattle]

My example is just trying to remove a lightstand from an image. The lightstand passes over a woman's ear. Her entire face and the man's arm is mangled in all three AI generated options. As an emergency fix, put it back the way it was. I need to get several thousand images edited.

[Jonathan_Seattle]

I reverted to 14.4 and now I'm getting this. None of the three AI options is any good, but at least the woman still has a face. Adobe - put regenerative remove back to the way it was in 14.4 and spend more energy on training. I don't mind including shadows in my selection! You've flown too close to the sun, wax melted, and your feathers fell off.

[Mar Alessandra]

[_amandapetersen]

YESSSS! So happy I'm not alone, I thought I was suddenly losing my mind or had accidentally hit a setting. It was awesome, 90% sucessful, and now it's more like 40% and the littlest things are completely awful.