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P: Import is creating OS - level duplicate files named (-2) when using Devices rather than Files

Community Beginner ,
Jun 22, 2020 Jun 22, 2020

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Since I upgraded to lightroom classic from lightroom 5.7.1, imports are now importing duplicate images, even though I have checked don't import suspected duplicates. It happens on both my nikon and canon camera images.

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Adobe Employee , Aug 17, 2022 Aug 17, 2022

Greetings, 

 

Updates for Adobe Photography products began rolling out Tuesday night, August 16th,  The updates contain a fix for this issue. 

If you do not see the update in your Creative Cloud Application, you can refresh it by hitting [Ctrl/Cmd]+[Alt/Opt]+[ R ].

Note: It may take up to 24 hours for your update to be available in your Creative Cloud app.

 

Thank you for your patience. 

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Adobe Employee , Jun 15, 2022 Jun 15, 2022

We have a fix for this in a future update - unfortunately, it was too late to make it into this week's release. 

Note: this is not specific to Fuji. I can reproduce with Canon as well. 

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Adobe Employee , May 20, 2022 May 20, 2022

Opened new bug for investigation. Issue is still not reproducible save very sporadically. In months of attempting to reproduce, it has only happened to me once and was not repeatable. 

Previous bug was only partially related to this failure. 

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Community Expert ,
Jun 22, 2020 Jun 22, 2020

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Are these newly captured photos? Or ones that have been on the card for a long time?
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Community Beginner ,
Jun 22, 2020 Jun 22, 2020

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These are new photos and some older ones (maybe a few weeks). It seems to just randomly import images that have already been imported....and the thing is I know it is recognizing the duplicates because it renames the files with a '-2' on the end of the filename.

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Participant ,
Jun 22, 2020 Jun 22, 2020

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I'm probably out of date as I no longer use this feature but a suspected duplicate had to match the capture date and file name exactly. Not sure how it happens but copying files between folders can sometimes change the capture date. Because the file name is identical, a suffix must be added as 2 files with the same name cannot exist in the same folder. But something else is enough different that it does not treat them as the same image.

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Adobe Employee ,
Jun 22, 2020 Jun 22, 2020

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The exact criteria for Classic is  File Size/Filename/Capture Date. If all three match it is a duplicate. If they do not it is not treated thusly. If you rename when importing this will make the duplicate check fail on Filename.

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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Participant ,
Jun 22, 2020 Jun 22, 2020

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He said that he is getting -2 added to the file name so we know that is matching.

Windows only comment: on Windows there are 2 sizes for a file. 1) actual size; 2) size on disk. Moving the file won't change the actual size but the size on disk is affected by both the disk technology (SSD vs HD...) and how it was formatted.

Perhaps Lightroom is checking the latter size?

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Adobe Employee ,
Jun 22, 2020 Jun 22, 2020

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OS?
Is the drive formatted as Case-sensitive?
Screenshots of the Folder/Import Dialog?
Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 22, 2020 Jun 22, 2020

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Windows 10...I wonder if it has to do with windows not being able to read .CR2 data. (I just switched over to a Canon 6d mark ii from a nikon d3300). I noticed that in addition to thumbnails not being displayed for cr2 files, in windows explorer|file properties|details  all the camera fields are blank...so 'date taken' etc are all blank. But I would assume that wouldn't affect lightrooms ability to read and compare that data, which I assume exists in the raw file even though windows doesn't display it...

Btw, I think I figured out why the Nikon files imported again...I used to convert to .dng, but now with the new Canon I am just copying the raw files, so when I imported this morning it makes sense that it made new copies of the photos since they were NEF and not DNG. HOWEVER...the import was only partial, and I did a couple of imports of my Nikon card, and each time it only imported a subset of all the files that could be imported. So why is that? Why wouldn't it import all the files on the card again, instead of spreading out over 2 different imports? That is really weird. Anyways, so it is apparently just the Canon .CR2 files that are getting duplicated with the filename being appended with a '-2'.

Also, thanks for all your responses, I will do some more digging here as well...


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Community Beginner ,
Jul 02, 2020 Jul 02, 2020

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Hi! Same problem over here!!

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 02, 2020 Jul 02, 2020

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The work around for me *seems* to be to let lightroom show all the previews first, before hitting the final import button. It's annoyingly time consuming, but so far I haven't had the issue since I started doing that.

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 04, 2020 Jul 04, 2020

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Thanks for the tip. This occurs since the last update.... pretty annoying.

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 04, 2020 Jul 04, 2020

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Same problem here, with MacOS Catalina, since the last LR update 9.3 june 2020 ( with .NEF files reading from a card reader )

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Adobe Employee ,
Jul 14, 2020 Jul 14, 2020

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We've logged a bug for this issue. Follow this thread for updates when this is fixed. 
Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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Adobe Employee ,
Oct 20, 2020 Oct 20, 2020

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Greetings,

 

Updates for the Adobe Photography Products were released on 10.20.2020 that include fixes for these issues. Please install the most recent update and confirm that your issue is now fixed. Please let us know if you encounter any issues.

 

Thank you for your patience.

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LEGEND ,
Nov 07, 2020 Nov 07, 2020

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@Rick 

I'm still having this issue. I have the most-recent version of lightroom classic installed.

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LEGEND ,
Nov 07, 2020 Nov 07, 2020

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Me too, it's driving me crazy, is there any way to quickly identify and delete the duplicates while we wait for a fix?

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LEGEND ,
Nov 15, 2020 Nov 15, 2020

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I have the same problem . Importing file after update is creating 2 files for the same picture . It’s making a duplicate!!!! What the heck!!! Imagine when you import 3000 pictures 

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LEGEND ,
Nov 15, 2020 Nov 15, 2020

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Same problem for me after updating last version!!!

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LEGEND ,
Nov 15, 2020 Nov 15, 2020

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@Rick

Not to pile on, but I'm also having the same issue as decribed here. It started with the version that introduced the Hue slider to the local adjustments (9.3?) at the time I checked with support and their solution was for me to downgrade and wait for an update to resolve the issue. Now I'm on ver. 10 of Classic (and Creative Cloud says I'm up to date) and I'm still having the same issue. On import, LRC displays both the RAW and sidecar jpeg files and imports both. I have the setting to NOT treat the jpegs as separate files. Following the advice of Support the last time, I uninstalled and reinstalled. Fixed the problem for only one import. Then back to the same problem. What's going on? HOW to fix? Permanently. This is annoying now.

 

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New Here ,
Nov 28, 2020 Nov 28, 2020

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Does anyone know if there is a fix yet 

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New Here ,
Nov 28, 2020 Nov 28, 2020

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4 months since you posted this surely you have a fix by now

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Adobe Employee ,
Nov 29, 2020 Nov 29, 2020

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This was fixed in October with the release of 10.0
Are you using this release?

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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Contributor ,
Dec 02, 2020 Dec 02, 2020

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@Rikk , I have used the Rename file function for years, to avoid duplicate file names. Many cameras start file naming over for every 10000 images (_DSC1234 og DSC_1234). 
Lightroom Classic and predecessors have always treated duplicates reliably for me. I appreciate this function so much.

I have experienced significant problems with duplicate file names when helping people locate missing/offline photographs in catalog. I am running a Norwegian user support group with 7000 members.

Regards
Arnold Hoddevik

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LEGEND ,
Dec 05, 2020 Dec 05, 2020

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This has not been fixed.  I'm using the 10.0 version and this has happened to me twice this week.  Just moments ago, in fact.  

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Participant ,
Dec 05, 2020 Dec 05, 2020

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Bjorn_B,

 

Did you see Rikk's comment regarding whether the drive was formatted as "case sensitive"? Only applies to MacOS or running a virtual instance of Windows under Linux. 

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