/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-issue-in-text-filter-caption-ends-with/idc-p/12276727#M9017Dec 20, 2011
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Regarding xab but not aab:
Sounds like a data-sensitive bug reminiscent of the "Big Mallard Ducks" bug in 'Contains Words'.
However, the second case is to be expected (ends-with "a" matching "a b").
The way Lightroom works, it divides the search term up by spaces, then subjects each to the search criteria: "a" does end with "a" (I thought you were the one who pointed this out to me in the 'starts with' thread ;?) This behavior is awesome *iff* you dont have any spaces in your metadata, which my keywords don't, anymore, ever since I realized that Lightroom does not handle spaces properly. This behavior however is especially bad for searching captions, etc...
Space Urchin on the other hand, has been specifically designed to consider spaces as part of the search term, and will not match ends-with "a" unless the whole search term ends with "a".
/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-issue-in-text-filter-caption-ends-with/idc-p/12276722#M9016Dec 21, 2011
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I agree that the second case, Caption Ends With "a" matches caption "a b", is consistent with the way Starts With works. But since Becky of Adobe acknowledged Starts With as a bug, I thought it best to also mention that Ends With has a similar issue:
The Smart Collection search options of 'ends with' doesn't appear to be working. When using 'Folder' 'ends with' 'Test' it includes all photos under the root folder of 'Test Photos'.
Similar examples such as 'Folder' 'ends with' 'Test Lucia' return all photos that are under the root 'Test Photos' and have 'Lucia' somewhere in the folder name.
As far as I can tell so far there is no difference between using contains all and ends with. Or starts with for that matter.
(v4.3 64-bit on Win8 64-bit)
To be clear: Lr divides metadata up into words (with space as delimiter) *BEFORE* testing for matches. It then tests each word independently of the rest.
So 'THE END' starts with 'END' and ends with 'THE'.
Note: due to bug, the aformentioned can not be found at all when using "contains words" (see "big mallard ducks" bug).
This is one of my pet peeves in Lightroom:
Spaces are allowed *as data* but are treated *as separator*.
It's just wrong...
In the mean time, consider using AnyFilter
(or SpaceUrchin, if you're weird, like me)
if you need to search for metadata with spaces in it.
To be clear: Lr divides metadata up into words (with space as delimiter) *BEFORE* testing for matches. It then tests each word independently of the rest.
So 'THE END' starts with 'END' and ends with 'THE'.
Note: due to bug, the aformentioned can not be found at all when using "contains words" (see "big mallard ducks" bug).
This is one of my pet peeves in Lightroom:
Spaces are allowed *as data* but are treated *as separator*.
It's just wrong...
In the mean time, consider using AnyFilter
(or SpaceUrchin, if you're weird, like me)
if you need to search for metadata with spaces in it.
TextMeta offers a solution for searching a limited subset of metadata with spaces (e.g. file name, folder path, title, caption, ...) by replacing spaces with something else (in a shadow-copy available as custom metadata). Such massaged metadata is available for library filters and/or smart collections.
For example, if you specify spaces to be replaced by underscore, then
'THE END' would be stored as 'THE_END', which even by Lightroom native handling, starts with 'THE' and ends with 'END'.
/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-issue-in-text-filter-caption-ends-with/idc-p/12276734#M9019Mar 14, 2017
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In Lightroom 5.2 64-bit when I set up smart collections based on "Keyword ends with" I notice that some pictures are not being selected where the keyword has a double letter, e.g. "East Sutton" is not matched when I select "Keyword ends with 'ton'" whereas it is found if I change the keyword to "East Suton". A possible bug or a misunderstanding on my part?
/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-issue-in-text-filter-caption-ends-with/idc-p/12276697#M9010Mar 14, 2017
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In the merged thread, kirbykrieger wrote:
*kirbykrieger MemberThis bug remains in Lightroom CC 2015.9.
Please see thread I started on Lightroomforums.net. Confirmed by two top users.
The Smart Collection Rule:
{Keywords}{ends with}{string}
fails to match Photos with keywords that end with "xstring" where "x" is the same letter as the first letter in "string".
I am emigrating large databases from Aperture to Lightroom (happily, until this tripped me) that use sets of Smart Collections based on sets of keywords that carry one of a small often-used group of suffixes and prefixes. This bug breaks my system. Other than reporting it here, is there anything I can do to help resolve it?
(I have edited dozens of Smart Collections to use "tring" instead of "string" where the first letter of "string" follows an identical letter. This short-term solution works for now, but it introduces an inconsistency that will cause bigger problems down the road, and is cumbersome to implement.)
/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-issue-in-text-filter-caption-ends-with/idc-p/12302304#M14121Mar 14, 2017
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Kirby, this bug was first reported over five years ago and acknowledged by Adobe two years ago. Let's hope the recent refiling of the bug report spurs a fix!
/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-issue-in-text-filter-caption-ends-with/idc-p/15078043#M59460Jan 08, 2025
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word to the wise: some very old posts in this longstanding thread contain external weblinks which since been nastily compromised - great care please! Links within Adobe / Photoshop.com forums not of the same concern.
/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-issue-in-text-filter-caption-ends-with/idc-p/15081097#M59472Jan 09, 2025
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@Rikk Flohr: Photography: "I checked this bug after seeing you reference it in another post. This was fixed in 7.0 in 2017. Are you saying this is not fixed?"
I just double-checked LR 14.1.1 / Mac OS, and the bug is still present. See this screen recording:
/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-issue-in-text-filter-caption-ends-with/idc-p/15081100#M59473Jan 09, 2025
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@richardplondon: "some very old posts in this longstanding thread contain external weblinks which since been nastily compromised - great care please! Links within Adobe / Photoshop.com forums not of the same concern."
Are you referring to the feedback.photoshop.com links? They referred to the old "feedback" site for the Lightroom and Photoshop products and now redirect to community.adobe.com. That's not very useful to readers, but they're not "compromised" (e.g. link to malware sites).
/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-issue-in-text-filter-caption-ends-with/idc-p/15081530#M59474Jan 10, 2025
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unsafe link was for something called "space urchin" - my curiosity got better of me, but I think my anti-malware blocked all the potentially bad stuff that resulted
It appears the expired domain name was acquired by a spammy link redirector that sells such redirects to sleazy advertisers, such as sellers of health supplements.
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