P: Lightroom Classic: Editing raw file in PS from LR loses profile

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

[See here for how to reproduce the bug and an easy workaround:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/conversations/lightroom-classic/lightroom-classic-editing-cr3-files-i... -- John Ellis]

Editing a picture in Photoshop 2021 from within LR 10.0 makes the color profile disappear and the image loses all it's vibrancy... Any idea how to fix that? Top image is what I see in LR. Bottom is how it shows up in Photoshop... 

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[johnrellis]

Adobe customer support has a reputation for saying anything to close a call when they don't know the answer, unfortunately.

[johnrellis]

Why conversations get merged:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/conversations/lightroom-classic/lightroom-auto-import-to-folders-orga... 

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Hi,

after reporting it above and then had Adobe call me. yep, definitely an issue with transfer of 3rd party profiles. The work around mentioned in this forum works. LR takes a while to create the xmp files. Other option is to right click the photo you intent to transfer clicking - metadata- save metadata to file/ update DNG preview. 

Support said he would make a note. not sure if anything will happen

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

When opening an image in Photoshop, from the "edit in Photoshop" command in LR Classic, the image is grossly oversaturated. However, if I first export the image as a PSD file, then open that file in PS, it matches the look in LR. Up to date on both LR and PS. Working on a Mac, with Mojave OS. Have not changed any of my preferences in either program. Problem just appeared today, after a lifetime of always matching. Any suggestions?

[COBill]

With my limited experience opening images from Lightroom, I get the best results by opening as layers. I just use it for focus stacking and experimenting with Super Resolution but I don't experience your problem. I'm using Windows, not sure that matters and I only send raw images to Photoshop.

For MacOS, make sure you are on 11.2 or newer or pre-11.0.

[JohanElzenga]

Did you apply a custom camera profile to this image? There is a bug in Lightroom/Photoshop that such a profile is not applied when using Edit in Photoshop. Search for it here in the forum; there should be a very long thread including some work around suggestions. I don’t think that bug is fixed yet.

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

This thread is being merged into an existing authoritative thread for better tracking and response. Please review the official answer (if any) in the second post on the thread for more information. 

[Yves-CH]

Je teste ce 21 avril 2021 - macOS 11.2.3 LrC 10.2 PS 13.2

SI le profile est appliqué depuis LrC, et un fichier .xmp existe ou est créé, ce profile n'est pas enregistré dans le .xmp, donc si on uvre le RAW directement avec PS, donc recherche des paramètres dans le .xmp ce profile ne pourra pas être appliqué puisque celui-ci ne sera pas enregistré ou mal reproduit dans le .xmp
Après ces km d'explications, vois la situation résumée en quelques lignes, merci de corriger ceci dans une proche prochaine version !

[cubickay]

Aaaaand we're back to where we began - this time even with XMP files saved next to their raw files (Catalog Settings > Metadata > "Include Develop settings...")

"Edit in Photoshop" does not carry over the Profile, even though the profile can be selected from both Lr and ACR.

Photoshop 22.3.1
ACR 13.2

Lightroom Classic 10.2
Windows 10 20H2

[johnrellis]

I just tested the workaround with LR 10.2 / PS 22.3.1, and it works for me.

Note that the setting Catalog Settings > Metadata > Include Develop Settings In Metadata doesn't ensure that a photo's most recent metadata is saved to the file or .xmp sidecar.  It just specifies that whenever metadata is saved, the Develop settings will be included.

To ensure the most recent metadata is saved before editing in PS, do Metadata > Save Metadata To File or set Catalog Settings > Metadata > Automatically Write Changes Into XMP.

[johnrellis]

Why conversations get merged: 

https://feedback.photoshop.com/conversations/lightroom-classic/lightroom-auto-import-to-folders-orga... 

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

I also have this problem. It appears that creative profiles with lookup tables are not applied correctly when using the Edit in Photoshop command. When applying a preset with such a profile in LR, settings such as exposure etc are applied when opening in Photoshop but the actual profile is not. I am using MacOS 11.4, LR Classic v.10.3, Camera Raw v.13.3, PS  v.22.4.2 (i.e. all up to date). However, this did not work before i upgraded to MacOS Big Sur and before I updated to the latest verions of LR and PS. This happens on all creative presets with lookup tables (e.g. RNI All Films 5) and is causing massive problems with workflow. Put simply, the image in PS looks nothing like the image in LR as the creative profile is not being applied when opening in PS.  

[Yves-CH]

*zurifotoHello, pour moi parfois ça fonctionne, parfois pas, parfois ça fonctionne si modifié dans PS, mais ça ne fonctionne pas sir modifié en tant que calque d'objet dynamique ?  Remarque, je n'utilise pas les .xmp pour enregistrer les paramètres des RAWs, seulement la base de donnée LrC.
macOS 11.4 et LrC 10.3

Il y a donc quelque chose à ne pas faire dans la création des profiles sous CameraRaw ?

[johnrellis]

While waiting for Adobe to fix this, you can work around the bug by selecting the photo in LR and doing Metadata > Save Metadata To File before you edit in PS, or set Catalog Settings > Metadata > Save Changes > Automatically Write Changes Into XMP.

[Kreativstudio Kaplun]

Hi!

This came up about 1.5 months ago and even with the latest release of LrC the issue still persists.

When you edit a photo in LrC (Mac and Windows) and you apply a custom camera profile via the profile browser, everything looks ok. But as soon as you hand the photo over from LrC to PS, the applied profile is lost.

I get complaints about this bug every single day for the last 1.5 months.

Does anyone know when this is supposed to be fixed?

Thanks!

Step 1: Apply profile

Step 2: Hand over to Photoshop for further editing

Step 3: This is what you get in Photoshop. The profile is lost.

[JohanElzenga]

This is a known issue. I do not know when this will be fixed, but apparently an easy work around is to use ‘Save Metadata to File’ (Cmd-S) before you send the image to Photoshop.

[johnrellis]

Why conversations get merged:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/conversations/lightroom-classic/lightroom-auto-import-to-folders-orga...

[JamesWatt]

When I right click on a raw photo and click Edit In > Adobe Photoshop. It opens a copy in Photoshop. For all of the years I've used LR, it has always brought over the LR adjustments into Photoshop. For the last few months, however, it is not.

(Note: When right clicking on a raw file, LR never prompts me to ask if I want to edit a copy with LR adjustments; it just opens right up. I only get that prompt when editing a TIF or JPG etc.)

With the reverted photo now loaded into Photoshop, I'll unknowingly do all of my editing to the picture only to realize after I'm finished that the lighting and adjustments are totally different wrong. I have to then do all of the work a second time.

A work around that I've found (although I'm not sure if it works 100% of the time) is to press Ctrl + S on the image in LR to save the meta data before Editing in Photoshop.

This has significantly slowed down my workflow because #1. Occasionally I miss it and have to redo Photoshop editing. #2. I am always questioning and second guessing if it got every adjustment... I'm wasting time maximizing and minimizing both LR and PS to see if they look the same before I go forward. This is just killing me with portrait work.

This happens every single time I use LR on at least a few images. I first noticed the problem on June 15. I've been ignoring it for the last few months with the hope an update fixes it because reporting any type of bug here is entirely useless IMHO.

The only thing that could make my set up different than a normal set up is that my library is on a mapped drive on a NAS. In this case, the W: drive. I have been using LR like this for years and only started having a problem in June.

[JohanElzenga]

This is a known issue with certain profiles not getting sent to Photoshop. Adobe is aware of it and so you should expect a fix in an update, hopefully soon.

Note: When right clicking on a raw file, LR never prompts me to ask if I want to edit a copy with LR adjustments; it just opens right up. I only get that prompt when editing a TIF or JPG etc.

That is perfectly normal and has always been the case (at least for many years now). It has nothing to do with the issue at hand. The reason is simple: Photoshop can't directly edit a raw file, it always opens a copy that is rendered by Camera Raw. So the dialog would only have one logical choice (and in the very early years that was indeed the case).

[johnrellis]

To build on Johan's reply, do the images with this problem have creative profiles applied (via the Profiile Browser)?  (A creative profile is a .xmp file and can be applied to any image, whereas a camera profile is a .dcp file and applies only to images taken with a specific camera.)

[JamesWatt]

Absolutely. I am using profiles from https://colorfidelity.com/

However, I'm not using any presets. I'm doing all of my editing myself in
LR.

[JamesWatt]

It's not letting me reply to the replies. There isn't a reply button anywhere on the page except at the top of the post...

Anyways this is for johnrellis - yes I am using xmp color profiles from colorfidelity.com. I do not use any presets though, I am doing all of my editing myself.

[johnrellis]

This existing bug is almost a year old, so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it to get fixed:

https://feedback-readonly.photoshop.com/conversations/lightroom-classic/lightroom-classic-editing-ra... 

A workaround is to do Metadata > Save Metadata To File right before editing in Photoshop, or alternatively, set the option Catalog Settings > Metadata > Automatically Write Changes Into XMP.

[JamesWatt]

I was using Ctrl + S (same as saving the metadata through the GUI) when I remembered to do it.

I just now made the Catalogue change to automatically write changes to XMP. As long as that does it for me on every photo, I'm good now.

Thank you so much!!

[JamesWatt]

Actually this does not seem to have a change with existing photos. Maybe it will help when I import new ones.