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P: LrC 12.2.1 fails to start/launch or is extremely slow launching.

Explorer ,
Mar 23, 2023 Mar 23, 2023

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Hi,

 

LRC 12.2.1 is not starting anymore, just launches as a background process using significant amounts of RAM and CPU, but the visible window never shows up. 

 

I have already:

- Tried the alt-shift-click thingie.

- Tried logging out and in from CC.

- Wiping all data files from the computer and letting LRC create a fresh Lightroom folder and catalog file (sometimes it does that, sometimes it hangs before the folder is created). 

- Wiping all Adobe products with the cleaner tool and reinstalling just LRC.

- I have even formatted and reisntalled the computer (becuase it was a good time to do that anyway).

 

But LRC still fails. What to do next?

 

Edition Windows 10 Pro
Version 22H2
Installed on ‎17.‎03.‎2023
OS build 19045.2728
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.4190.0

 

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Adobe Employee , Mar 26, 2023 Mar 26, 2023

One of our Prerelease Testers has a bug logged for this and we've referenced this thread to that existing bug. 

 

Workaround:
The team has verified this workaround has no risks. Until we can release an update, please follow these steps:

  • Close LrC if open
    (the file will not show if Lightroom is open)

  • Locate metrics.json file at this location: 

    Mac: /Users/<username>/Library/Caches/Adobe/Lightroom/metrics.json
    (Note that Mac has two Libraries
    Make sure you are in the User Library and not the System
...
Status Investigating

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Adobe Employee , Apr 18, 2023 Apr 18, 2023

Greetings all,

 

Updates for Adobe Photography products have been released.  The April 2023 updates contain a final fix for this issue. After installing 12.3 it should be no longer necessary to monitor and delete the metrics.json file.

If you do not see the update in your Creative Cloud Application, you can refresh it by hitting [Ctrl/Cmd]+[Alt/Opt]+[ R ].

Note: It may take up to 24 hours for your update to be available in your Creative Cloud app.

 

Thank you for your patience.

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Adobe Employee ,
Apr 21, 2023 Apr 21, 2023

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@rptmaestro2  The fix was released on April 17th.  See the second pinned post on this thread. 

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 21, 2023 Apr 21, 2023

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And they even base64 encoded the entire metrics.json file, which makes it 25% larger than it would otherwise be. Winning strategy.

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Apr 21, 2023 Apr 21, 2023

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Thank you. I updated my app. Waiting to see if the experience improves. I have a feeling the metrics.json file was filling up because of some cloud syncing I've been trying to let complete. The cloud sync is really slow. It's been going on for days now, and I literally can't do anything in Lightroom while it's syncing or the whole app crashes. I have to pause the sync, do my work, then un-pause and let my computer churn while I'm away from it. The Cloud Sync alone is my number one contribution to Global Warming.

 

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Apr 23, 2023 Apr 23, 2023

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The release did not fix the problem for me. It is true that the metrics.json file has disappeared now and does not reappear upon starting to launch the program. But I continue to have the same issue, the starting screen flashed up very briefly and then the program crashes. What can I do? Needless to say that all the time I'm paying for a program that is not working.

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Apr 23, 2023 Apr 23, 2023

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@Ana Martinez  It is likely then that your issue is not related to this problem/solution. You should start a new thread in Lightroom Classic Discussions and include complete system/software/troubleshooting information in your post. You will get an answer much faster than posting in this unrelated fixed thread. 

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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Apr 30, 2023 Apr 30, 2023

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Another weird thing I have noticed is that Lightroom 12.3 works only my M1 Pro mac not on the M1 Max. For the Max it just keeps crashing whatever I try.

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Apr 30, 2023 Apr 30, 2023

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I have and M1 Max studio and it is working. I am still running MacOS Monterey 12.6.5. Do you have the same OS on both of your Apple computers?

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May 13, 2023 May 13, 2023

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This is beyond frustrating.  I've only been running Lightroom Classic CC for a few months, and was able to work within last night.  This morning it will not load on my iMac running Ventura 13.3.1.  I have uninstalled it more times than I want to count, I have deleted the prefrence list using shift + option, I have manually deleted the com.adobe.LightroomClassicCC7.plist, and have gone on to try deleting the metrics.json file within the Mac: /Users/username/Library/Caches/Adobe/Lightroom/metrics.json.  As I continue to repeat these steps and have re-moved and re-installed the application, I get absolutely no where, and am back to the original problem.   After the most recent re-install of the application, from my Adobe account (I do pay for access monthly, therefore have a subscription) this is the error information I receive:

 

Process: Adobe Lightroom Classic [1589]
Path: /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic/Adobe Lightroom Classic.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe Lightroom Classic
Identifier: com.adobe.LightroomClassicCC7
Version: 12.3 (12.3)
Code Type: ARM-64 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [1]
User ID: 501

Date/Time: 2023-05-13 09:43:33.7728 -0600
OS Version: macOS 13.3.1 (22E772610a)
Report Version: 12
Anonymous UUID: 5DB398D4-3DFC-CA65-01BF-E324C3B7A4A6


Time Awake Since Boot: 1600 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread: 0 CrBrowserMain Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000068
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000068

Termination Reason: Namespace SIGNAL, Code 11 Segmentation fault: 11
Terminating Process: exc handler [1589]

VM Region Info: 0x68 is not in any region. Bytes before following region: 105553518919576
REGION TYPE START - END [ VSIZE] PRT/MAX SHRMOD REGION DETAIL
UNUSED SPACE AT START
--->
MALLOC_NANO (reserved) 600018000000-600020000000 [128.0M] rw-/rwx SM=NUL ...(unallocated)

Kernel Triage:
VM - (arg = 0x0) pmap_enter retried due to resource shortage
VM - (arg = 0x0) pmap_enter retried due to resource shortage
VM - (arg = 0x0) pmap_enter retried due to resource shortage
VM - (arg = 0x0) pmap_enter retried due to resource shortage
VM - (arg = 0x0) pmap_enter retried due to resource shortage


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9 AgKernel 0x100c347a0 lua_call + 36
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11 AppKit 0x1a3802e80 -[NSApplication _doOpenUntitled] + 320
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13 AppKit 0x1a37adf68 __72-[NSPersistentUIManager restoreAllPersistentStateWithCompletionHandler:]_block_invoke + 72
14 AppKit 0x1a37ade68 __90-[NSDocumentController(NSInternal) _autoreopenDocumentsFromRecords:withCompletionHandler:]_block_invoke + 80
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16 AppKit 0x1a37adb10 __97-[NSDocumentController(NSInternal) _autoreopenDocumentsIgnoringExpendable:withCompletionHandler:]_block_invoke_3 + 116
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18 AppKit 0x1a378c6b8 -[NSPersistentUIRestorer finishedRestoringWindowsWithZOrder:completionHandler:] + 1168
19 AppKit 0x1a40e82ac -[NSPersistentUIRestorer restoreStateFromRecords:usingDelegate:requireSecureCoding:completionHandler:] + 1412
20 AppKit 0x1a368ddf4 -[NSPersistentUIManager restoreAllPersistentStateWithCompletionHandler:] + 380
21 AppKit 0x1a368d43c -[NSApplication _reopenWindowsAsNecessaryIncludingRestorableState:completionHandler:] + 356
22 AppKit 0x1a368d1b0 -[NSApplication(NSAppleEventHandling) _handleAEOpenEvent:] + 496
23 AppKit 0x1a368cdb4 -[NSApplication(NSAppleEventHandling) _handleCoreEvent:withReplyEvent:] + 492
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26 AE 0x1a6788518 0x1a677c000 + 50456
27 AE 0x1a6787e44 0x1a677c000 + 48708
28 AE 0x1a6780f18 aeProcessAppleEvent + 488
29 HIToolbox 0x1a9cadcf8 AEProcessAppleEvent + 68
30 AppKit 0x1a368825c _DPSNextEvent + 1408
31 AppKit 0x1a36870f4 -[NSApplication(NSEvent) _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 716
32 AppKit 0x1a367b558 -[NSApplication run] + 464
33 AppKit 0x1a36529a8 NSApplicationMain + 880
34 Adobe Lightroom Classic 0x10073e480 main + 1156
35 dyld 0x1a0033f28 start + 2236

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Thread 2:
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Thread 3:
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Thread 4:
0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a0386d8c start_wqthread + 0

Thread 5:
0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a0386d8c start_wqthread + 0

Thread 6:: com.adobe.ngl-ProcessNglIngestEvents-0x16fb47000
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1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038c574 _pthread_cond_wait + 1232
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3 Adobe Lightroom Classic 0x100829664 adobe::ngl::internal::NglIngestManager::ProcessNglIngestEvents() + 3456
4 Adobe Lightroom Classic 0x1006cbf50 0x100688000 + 278352
5 Adobe Lightroom Classic 0x1006cbea4 0x100688000 + 278180
6 Adobe Lightroom Classic 0x1006cbfe8 0x100688000 + 278504
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038bfa8 _pthread_start + 148
8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a0386da0 thread_start + 8

Thread 7:: com.adobe.ngl-MonitorSuccessEventsThread-0x16fbd3000
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1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038c574 _pthread_cond_wait + 1232
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3 Adobe Lightroom Classic 0x100829dc0 adobe::ngl::internal::NglIngestManager::MonitorSuccessEventsThread() + 668
4 Adobe Lightroom Classic 0x1006cbf50 0x100688000 + 278352
5 Adobe Lightroom Classic 0x1006cbea4 0x100688000 + 278180
6 Adobe Lightroom Classic 0x1006cbfe8 0x100688000 + 278504
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038bfa8 _pthread_start + 148
8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a0386da0 thread_start + 8

Thread 8:
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Thread 9:: Worker Thread Dispatcher
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1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038c574 _pthread_cond_wait + 1232
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12 AgKernel 0x100c3d42c 0x100c30000 + 54316
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18 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038bfa8 _pthread_start + 148
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4 CameraRaw 0x14e531378 0x14dde0000 + 7672696
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6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a0386da0 thread_start + 8

Thread 11:: BGThread (Apple M1)
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1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038c574 _pthread_cond_wait + 1232
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6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a0386da0 thread_start + 8

Thread 12:: Queue Processor - AgPhotoAvailability
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1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038c574 _pthread_cond_wait + 1232
2 AgKernel 0x100c6d2a0 AgConditionLock_wait + 44
3 AgKernel 0x100c55208 AgTransitQueue_dequeueToLuaState + 104
4 AgKernel 0x100c55ccc 0x100c30000 + 154828
5 AgKernel 0x100c3d050 0x100c30000 + 53328
6 AgKernel 0x100c3d41c 0x100c30000 + 54300
7 AgKernel 0x100c347a0 lua_call + 36
8 AgSubstrate 0x100eff624 AgLua_callWithAutoReleasePool + 56
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10 AgKernel 0x100c4c0a4 0x100c30000 + 114852
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22 AgKernel 0x100c3d42c 0x100c30000 + 54316
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24 AgKernel 0x100c3d700 0x100c30000 + 55040
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26 AgSubstrate 0x100ee70e4 0x100ec0000 + 159972
27 Foundation 0x1a13da63c __NSThread__start__ + 716
28 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038bfa8 _pthread_start + 148
29 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a0386da0 thread_start + 8

Thread 13:: ThreadPoolServiceThread
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1 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x1464827ac ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6769428
2 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146481f04 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6767212
3 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146430af8 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6434400
4 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x1463fcec8 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6222384
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10 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a0386da0 thread_start + 8

Thread 14:: ThreadPoolForegroundWorker
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1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a035e240 mach_msg2_internal + 80
2 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a0354b78 mach_msg_overwrite + 604
3 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a034c290 mach_msg + 24
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5 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146415a00 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6323560
6 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146447d24 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6529164
7 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146447830 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6527896
8 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146447708 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6527600
9 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14646a898 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6671360
10 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038bfa8 _pthread_start + 148
11 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a0386da0 thread_start + 8

Thread 15:: ThreadPoolBackgroundWorker
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1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a035e240 mach_msg2_internal + 80
2 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a0354b78 mach_msg_overwrite + 604
3 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a034c290 mach_msg + 24
4 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14647bd18 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6742144
5 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146415a00 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6323560
6 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x1464470b0 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6525976
7 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14644798c ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6528244
8 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x1464477ac ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6527764
9 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14644773c ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6527652
10 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14646a898 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6671360
11 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038bfa8 _pthread_start + 148
12 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a0386da0 thread_start + 8

Thread 16:: ThreadPoolForegroundWorker
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1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a035e240 mach_msg2_internal + 80
2 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a0354b78 mach_msg_overwrite + 604
3 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a034c290 mach_msg + 24
4 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14647bd18 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6742144
5 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146415a00 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6323560
6 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146447d24 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6529164
7 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146447830 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6527896
8 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146447708 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6527600
9 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14646a898 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6671360
10 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038bfa8 _pthread_start + 148
11 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a0386da0 thread_start + 8

Thread 17:: Chrome_IOThread
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1 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x1464827ac ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6769428
2 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146481f04 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6767212
3 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146430af8 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6434400
4 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x1463fcec8 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6222384
5 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14644f0d0 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6558776
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8 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14646a898 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6671360
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10 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a0386da0 thread_start + 8

Thread 18:: MemoryInfra
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a034bf14 mach_msg2_trap + 8
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a035e240 mach_msg2_internal + 80
2 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a0354b78 mach_msg_overwrite + 604
3 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a034c290 mach_msg + 24
4 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14647bd18 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6742144
5 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146415a00 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6323560
6 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14641596c ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6323412
7 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x1463d7af4 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6069852
8 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146430af8 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6434400
9 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x1463fcec8 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6222384
10 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14644f0d0 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6558776
11 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14644f234 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6559132
12 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14646a898 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6671360
13 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038bfa8 _pthread_start + 148
14 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a0386da0 thread_start + 8

Thread 19:: NetworkConfigWatcher
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a034bf14 mach_msg2_trap + 8
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a035e240 mach_msg2_internal + 80
2 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a0354b78 mach_msg_overwrite + 604
3 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a034c290 mach_msg + 24
4 CoreFoundation 0x1a046a8b8 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 160
5 CoreFoundation 0x1a0469198 __CFRunLoopRun + 1208
6 CoreFoundation 0x1a046858c CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 612
7 Foundation 0x1a13e10bc -[NSRunLoop(NSRunLoop) runMode:beforeDate:] + 212
8 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x1464743b4 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6711068
9 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146472634 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6703516
10 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146430af8 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6434400
11 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x1463fcec8 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6222384
12 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14644f0d0 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6558776
13 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14644f234 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6559132
14 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14646a898 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6671360
15 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038bfa8 _pthread_start + 148
16 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a0386da0 thread_start + 8

Thread 20:: NetworkConfigWatcher
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a034bf14 mach_msg2_trap + 8
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a035e240 mach_msg2_internal + 80
2 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a0354b78 mach_msg_overwrite + 604
3 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a034c290 mach_msg + 24
4 CoreFoundation 0x1a046a8b8 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 160
5 CoreFoundation 0x1a0469198 __CFRunLoopRun + 1208
6 CoreFoundation 0x1a046858c CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 612
7 Foundation 0x1a13e10bc -[NSRunLoop(NSRunLoop) runMode:beforeDate:] + 212
8 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x1464743b4 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6711068
9 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146472634 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6703516
10 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146430af8 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6434400
11 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x1463fcec8 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6222384
12 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14644f0d0 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6558776
13 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14644f234 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6559132
14 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14646a898 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6671360
15 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038bfa8 _pthread_start + 148
16 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a0386da0 thread_start + 8

Thread 21:: ThreadPoolForegroundWorker
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a034bf14 mach_msg2_trap + 8
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a035e240 mach_msg2_internal + 80
2 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a0354b78 mach_msg_overwrite + 604
3 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a034c290 mach_msg + 24
4 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14647bd18 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6742144
5 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146415a00 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6323560
6 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146447d24 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6529164
7 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146447830 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6527896
8 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146447708 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6527600
9 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14646a898 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6671360
10 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038bfa8 _pthread_start + 148
11 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a0386da0 thread_start + 8

Thread 22:: ThreadPoolSingleThreadForegroundBlocking0
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a034bf14 mach_msg2_trap + 8
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a035e240 mach_msg2_internal + 80
2 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a0354b78 mach_msg_overwrite + 604
3 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a034c290 mach_msg + 24
4 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14647bd18 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6742144
5 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146415a00 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6323560
6 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146447d24 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6529164
7 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146447888 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6527984
8 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146447764 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6527692
9 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14646a898 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6671360
10 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038bfa8 _pthread_start + 148
11 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a0386da0 thread_start + 8

Thread 23:: CompositorTileWorker1
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a034f710 __psynch_cvwait + 8
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038c574 _pthread_cond_wait + 1232
2 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146469f30 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6668952
3 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x1472ad7b4 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 21625628
4 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14646a898 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6671360
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038bfa8 _pthread_start + 148
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a0386da0 thread_start + 8

Thread 24:: ThreadPoolSingleThreadSharedForeground1
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a034bf14 mach_msg2_trap + 8
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a035e240 mach_msg2_internal + 80
2 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a0354b78 mach_msg_overwrite + 604
3 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a034c290 mach_msg + 24
4 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14647bd18 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6742144
5 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146415a00 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6323560
6 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x1464470b0 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6525976
7 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14644798c ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6528244
8 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14644785c ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6527940
9 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146447750 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6527672
10 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14646a898 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6671360
11 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038bfa8 _pthread_start + 148
12 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a0386da0 thread_start + 8

Thread 25:: ThreadPoolSingleThreadSharedBackgroundBlocking2
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a034bf14 mach_msg2_trap + 8
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a035e240 mach_msg2_internal + 80
2 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a0354b78 mach_msg_overwrite + 604
3 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a034c290 mach_msg + 24
4 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14647bd18 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6742144
5 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146415a00 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6323560
6 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x1464470b0 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6525976
7 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14644798c ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6528244
8 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x1464477d8 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6527808
9 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146447778 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6527712
10 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14646a898 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6671360
11 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038bfa8 _pthread_start + 148
12 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a0386da0 thread_start + 8

Thread 26:: ThreadPoolSingleThreadSharedForegroundBlocking3
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a034bf14 mach_msg2_trap + 8
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a035e240 mach_msg2_internal + 80
2 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a0354b78 mach_msg_overwrite + 604
3 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1a034c290 mach_msg + 24
4 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14647bd18 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6742144
5 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146415a00 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6323560
6 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x1464470b0 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6525976
7 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14644798c ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6528244
8 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14644785c ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6527940
9 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x146447750 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6527672
10 Chromium Embedded Framework 0x14646a898 ChromeAppModeStart_v7 + 6671360
11 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a038bfa8 _pthread_start + 148
12 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x1a0386da0 thread_start + 8


Thread 0 crashed with ARM Thread State (64-bit):
x0: 0x0000000000000060 x1: 0x000000016f7758a0 x2: 0x0000000000000000 x3: 0x0000600001e02120
x4: 0x0000000000000005 x5: 0x0000000000001740 x6: 0x000000000000005d x7: 0x0000600001e020a0
x8: 0x0000000000000002 x9: 0x00000000000001ff x10: 0x0000000000002100 x11: 0x00000000000007fb
x12: 0x00000000c4c7c906 x13: 0x00000000000007fd x14: 0x00000000c4e7d109 x15: 0x00000000c4c7c906
x16: 0x0000000000000109 x17: 0x0000000044e00000 x18: 0x0000000000000000 x19: 0x0000000000000060
x20: 0x000000016f7759c0 x21: 0x000000016f7759d8 x22: 0x000000016f7759f0 x23: 0x000000016f775bc0
x24: 0x000000016f775bd8 x25: 0x000000016f775b60 x26: 0x0000000000000001 x27: 0x0000000000000000
x28: 0x0000000000000001 fp: 0x000000016f7756f0 lr: 0x0000000100dcaf2c
sp: 0x000000016f7756d0 pc: 0x0000000100dcf560 cpsr: 0x60001000
far: 0x0000000000000068 esr: 0x92000006 (Data Abort) byte read Translation fault

Binary Images:
0x100688000 - 0x1009fffff com.adobe.LightroomClassicCC7 (12.3) <0ec6f8ec-531b-3dd0-b672-97f4d648393c> /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic/Adobe Lightroom Classic.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe Lightroom Classic
0x100da8000 - 0x100e83fff com.adobe.AdobeCrashReporter (10.5) <0101b8b2-008a-383e-af9d-ef7f68094a2d> /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic/Adobe Lightroom Classic.app/Contents/Frameworks/AdobeCrashReporter.framework/Versions/A/AdobeCrashReporter
0x100c30000 - 0x100c77fff com.adobe.ag.kernel (AgKernel Version 1.0) <06a52906-2411-3a93-8271-6bbdc6070fe4> /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic/Adobe Lightroom Classic.app/Contents/Frameworks/AgKernel.framework/Versions/A/AgKernel
0x100c90000 - 0x100d1ffff com.canon.edsdk (13.15.10.1) <ab9ce675-0512-3d82-b709-190aefa29963> /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic/Adobe Lightroom Classic.app/Contents/Frameworks/EDSDK.framework/Versions/A/EDSDK
0x100b74000 - 0x100bbbfff com.adobe.ahclientframework (4.4.5.0) <6281ccac-ee33-3e7c-8102-8268d37381e9> /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic/Adobe Lightroom Classic.app/Contents/Frameworks/ahclient.framework/Versions/A/ahclient
0x1010bc000 - 0x10116bfff com.adobe.ag.ui (views version 0.0.1d1) <c78c1293-e26d-3588-b81d-ba7c27c812e3> /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic/Adobe Lightroom Classic.app/Contents/Frameworks/AgUI.framework/Versions/A/AgUI
0x100ec0000 - 0x100fd3fff com.adobe.ag.substrate (com.adobe.ag.substrate 12.3) <6ab1cccf-114e-3d7b-854c-36390b5845f0> /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic/Adobe Lightroom Classic.app/Contents/Frameworks/AgSubstrate.framework/Versions/A/AgSubstrate
0x10101c000 - 0x101067fff com.adobe.CrashReporterClient (12.0.0) <f8ad023c-cace-303b-9e3a-98c7027d6e60> /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic/Adobe Lightroom Classic.app/Contents/Frameworks/AdobeCrashReporter.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CrashReporterClient.framework/Versions/A/CrashReporterClient
0x1057d4000 - 0x1079e3fff com.adobe.wichitafoundation (com.adobe.wichitafoundation 12.3) <b02e7f65-4ff0-3d8c-b95e-9b3c841219d3> /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic/Adobe Lightroom Classic.app/Contents/Frameworks/WichitaFoundation.agtoolkit/Versions/A/WichitaFoundation
0x14dde0000 - 0x1550c7fff com.adobe.ag.AgImageIO (com.adobe.ag.AgImageIO 12.3) <cbfaa923-0ff0-3d5c-838f-39c1b00c7517> /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic/Adobe Lightroom Classic.app/Contents/Frameworks/CameraRaw.lrtoolkit/Versions/A/CameraRaw
0x107bc8000 - 0x107bd7fff com.adobe.ag.video-toolkit (com.adobe.ag.video_toolkit 12.3) <e1de17f5-c218-399d-86df-8878fd9999d1> /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic/Adobe Lightroom Classic.app/Contents/Frameworks/video_toolkit.agtoolkit/Contents/MacOS/video_toolkit
0x1184bc000 - 0x1184c7fff libobjc-trampolines.dylib (*) <80f14f3d-d099-3693-a8e0-eb9a526b1790> /usr/lib/libobjc-trampolines.dylib
0x11af00000 - 0x11af63fff com.adobe.ag.ceftoolkit (com.adobe.ag.cef_toolkit 12.3) <ededa49a-2c4b-3336-ab6d-35cf4eea4699> /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic/Adobe Lightroom Classic.app/Contents/Frameworks/cef_toolkit.agtoolkit/Contents/MacOS/cef_toolkit
0x143030000 - 0x14be5bfff org.cef.framework (110.0.30.0) <4c4c44e3-5555-3144-a1a3-80e8620e8af2> /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic/Adobe Lightroom Classic.app/Contents/Frameworks/Chromium Embedded Framework.framework/Chromium Embedded Framework
0x1a364f000 - 0x1a455dfff com.apple.AppKit (6.9) <cc3e5215-4cd7-364c-8750-6eb7002720ce> /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit
0x1a1384000 - 0x1a1d49fff com.apple.Foundation (6.9) <b7d67e5a-dce2-3f6b-b2b8-895a3669e3ec> /System/Library/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation
0x1a677c000 - 0x1a67efff7 com.apple.AE (944) <fa1caf38-db5f-3098-ab0f-42f8cf2bc9f7> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/AE.framework/Versions/A/AE
0x1a9c6d000 - 0x1a9fa0fff com.apple.HIToolbox (2.1.1) <5f34bbf5-653a-31a5-b4b3-0a02c91ab488> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox
0x1a002e000 - 0x1a00bc53b dyld (*) <ac277a36-1808-327a-8761-cca585421212> /usr/lib/dyld
0x1a0385000 - 0x1a0391fff libsystem_pthread.dylib (*) <b401cfb3-8dfe-32db-92b3-ba8af0f8ca6e> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_pthread.dylib
0x1a034b000 - 0x1a0384fe7 libsystem_kernel.dylib (*) <7acbd9bc-d056-310e-858d-81b116cf6d28> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x1a02a2000 - 0x1a032eff7 libc++.1.dylib (*) <79cab92f-5e03-31e7-b2bd-feafdfd2bbde> /usr/lib/libc++.1.dylib
0x1a03eb000 - 0x1a08c4fff com.apple.CoreFoundation (6.9) <b4fdaece-9727-3969-b014-27f7f24c8e01> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation
0x0 - 0xffffffffffffffff ??? (*) <00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000> ???

External Modification Summary:
Calls made by other processes targeting this process:
task_for_pid: 0
thread_create: 0
thread_set_state: 0
Calls made by this process:
task_for_pid: 0
thread_create: 0
thread_set_state: 0
Calls made by all processes on this machine:
task_for_pid: 0
thread_create: 0
thread_set_state: 0

VM Region Summary:
ReadOnly portion of Libraries: Total=1.7G resident=0K(0%) swapped_out_or_unallocated=1.7G(100%)
Writable regions: Total=1.3G written=0K(0%) resident=0K(0%) swapped_out=0K(0%) unallocated=1.3G(100%)

VIRTUAL REGION
REGION TYPE SIZE COUNT (non-coalesced)
=========== ======= =======
Accelerate framework 128K 1
Activity Tracing 256K 1
CG backing stores 3392K 4
CG image 45.8M 1
ColorSync 592K 27
CoreAnimation 11.5M 1
CoreGraphics 32K 2
CoreUI image data 160K 1
Foundation 16K 1
Image IO 5872K 1
Kernel Alloc Once 32K 1
MALLOC 252.4M 48
MALLOC guard page 288K 16
MALLOC_MEDIUM (reserved) 472.0M 4 reserved VM address space (unallocated)
MALLOC_NANO (reserved) 384.0M 1 reserved VM address space (unallocated)
Mach message 32K 1
SQLite page cache 256K 2
STACK GUARD 56.4M 27
Stack 129.6M 27
VM_ALLOCATE 4048K 20
__AUTH 1891K 396
__AUTH_CONST 29.0M 627
__CTF 824 1
__DATA 19.6M 628
__DATA_CONST 39.6M 643
__DATA_DIRTY 2016K 247
__FONT_DATA 2352 1
__INFO_FILTER 8 1
__LINKEDIT 806.2M 15
__OBJC_RO 66.2M 1
__OBJC_RW 2011K 1
__TEXT 917.5M 663
dyld private memory 272K 2
libnetwork 640K 16
mapped file 224.1M 162
shared memory 976K 18
=========== ======= =======
TOTAL 3.4G 3609
TOTAL, minus reserved VM space 2.6G 3609

 

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LEGEND ,
May 13, 2023 May 13, 2023

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@Kendra F 23, when it crashes, do you see the window asking you to submit the crash report to Adobe (not Apple)? If so, enter the email address associated with your Adobe Id and submit the report. Then notify @Rikk Flohr: Photography you've done so.

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Community Beginner ,
May 13, 2023 May 13, 2023

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I am still experiencing the same issue with 12.3 LRC newest update crashes immediately upon launching. Tried steps advised in thread at no avail. 

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Community Beginner ,
May 13, 2023 May 13, 2023

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I am still experiencing the same issue LCR crashing upon launching even after trying steps outlined in the thread here. The only fix for me now is reverting to previous versions. Dissapointing wanting to try it's new features. 

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@Yesaira298728115bzq  This thread is about failing to launch or very slow launching. Your issue is apparently a  crash and thus, not the same as those in this thread. I would not expect these solutions to work for you. It would be best for you to create a new post in Lightroom Classic Discussions and include complete system information as well as a step-by-step process for reproducing the crash. 

Thank you.

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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@Kendra F 23 

This thread is about slow to launch - not crashes. It is very unlikely the issues you are facing are related to this thread. I recommend you post a new thread in Lightroom Classic Discussions describing completely your system, software versions, and the steps to reproduce your problem. 

Additionally, we’ve reviewed the email address you use with this forum and find no crash reports in our system.

 

Did you see a crash dialog?

Do you use a different email address when filling out the crash report?

Was the crash dialog Adobe’s? Microsoft’s? Apple’s?

 

 

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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