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P: Transform doesn't copy/sync correctly

LEGEND ,
Feb 19, 2020 Feb 19, 2020

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Transform settings don't always copy/sync correctly to other photos. To reproduce:

1. Download this photo and make a copy of it in the same folder:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dflc03vke3be0zb/transform-bug.2020.02.19.jpg?dl=0

2. Import both photos.

3. Select both photos and go to Develop.

4. In the Transform panel, click Auto.

5. Click Sync, check only Upright Mode, then Synchronize.

6. Observe that the two photos have been transformed slightly differently.

7. Reset the develop settings of both photos.

8. Repeat steps 4 - 6, but this time check Upright Transforms in Sync.

9. Observe that the two photos have been transformed slightly differently.

See this thread for the original reports:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic/transform-tool-problems-since-latest-update-in-ligh...

Tested in LR 9.2 / Mac OS 10.14.6.

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 30, 2020 Jun 30, 2020

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I would delete my comment if I could.

The problem I ran into, back when Transform was introduced, apparently got fixed along the way. Since I had given up on it, I just changed my workflow and never revisited the function. I got into the habit of not copying the transform setting.

No, I sometimes don't want it recomputed. Initially, there was no option. Copying (e.g.) the "auto" setting was (originally) akin to clicking the auto button on the target image. At least to the best of my recollection.

The current behavior (crop constraints aside) are what I have always expected should (be a choice to make) happen: copy the end result of the transform to the new image.  So, problem solved (for me). Apologies for the bother.

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 16, 2021 Apr 16, 2021

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Will this ever work? Every day I have to go through every photo for every room that I shoot and click update... that's thousands of clicks per week.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 17, 2021 Apr 17, 2021

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"Will this ever work? Every day I have to go through every photo for every room that I shoot and click update... that's thousands of clicks per week."

What are the precise steps you're taking? Can you post screenshots before and after showing it not working the way you expect?

My tests of LR 10.2 show that Copy Settings and Sync Settings correctly copy the Transform Upright Mode (Auto, Guided, Level, Vertical), provided the source and destination photos don't have any prior crop angle applied via the Crop tool.   Auto Sync doesn't work, regardless of whether crop angle had been applied.

Precise steps:

1. Select all the photos.

2. Edit the first photo in Develop.

3. Do Transform > Auto.

4. Click Sync.

5. Click Check None, then Upright Mode, then Synchronize:

Here's the before and after:

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LEGEND ,
Jun 29, 2021 Jun 29, 2021

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I've done more thorough testing of copying Transform settings in LR 10.3, and generally it doesn't work correctly.  See here fo the test results:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/conversations/lightroom-classic/lightroom-correct-copying-of-crops-an... 

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New Here ,
Feb 10, 2022 Feb 10, 2022

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I'd like to add that I'm seeing a behavior which I'm not sure has been mentioned in this thread (forgive me if I missed it). 

 

I'm copying Crop and Transform settings from one Raw file and pasting them on a file that is an HDR of that same Raw file and an additional Raw file. The values for horizontal an vertical adjusted get "switched" and inverted. See screenshots. 

 

Copy:

copy.png

These are the transform values that I copy:

values.png

This is what is pasted:

paste.png

These images are all shot on tripod in near automatic fashion, so the image content varies mainly in exposure. 

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