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I am trying to learn about keywording. I have lists of keywords for people and also for other objects.
I realise that it is much easier to create groupings of keywords for people or thing that commonly go together as this facilitates loading it into the metadata.
As I would am preparing to create a number of these groupings, it would be easier if they were all together in some place where I can select them..So far I have not found such a solution It seems that with people grouping they are placed in the same list as the individual identifiers.. I have therefore been exploring using names like the beginnin of the telephone directory such as aaamyfirs group. This seems very clumsy and I would like advice on how to solve this problem.
Thanks
Terence
I use the Groups like Who, What, Where, etc- (I slip up occasionally with an extra one in the 'parent' list!
I have one 'Parent' group dedicated to any new KW that does not match an existing KW- It will automatically be added to this Group-
("#NEW KEYWORDS" appears at the top of the list because @#$% characters sort before ABCD characters.)
And I have nominated the "WHO#" group to be for all keywords marked as 'Person' KWs.
Hi,
You can have keywords inside keywords, thus effectively acting like folders and subfolders, and for each keyword the possibility to uncheck the "include on export" option.
Personally, I have ~what, ~when, ~where, ~who, etc... as main categories (I always use ~ in front of keywords/folders that are just for organizing and will not be exported).
~what is further subdivided into ~objects, ~animals, ~vegetation, and so on... Within animals I have among others birds (it is exported, so no ~) and wit
...Hi,
For me, London should be inside UK. Actually, this is how I have it:
Some might think it's over the top, but for me it's very useful, which in the end is the only thing that matters.
How specific you want to be is really up to you, but I would argue it's best practice to avoid "London, UK" because those are two different entities, one inside the other. When I assign the keyword London to a picture, it automatically gets England, Great Britain, and so on up the hierarchy, which means I can easil
..."I was wondering whether they can be used for creating different combinations of participants such as Joe,Mary,Allen,Fred Joe,Allen Mary Fred etc"
They could, but it could quickly become a nightmarish situation if you create a set each possible combinations, so you could end up wasting more time than if you tagged people one by one. But having a set of up to 9 people at one event as a way to see only those present and tag them would definitely help. I do that sometimes for specif
..."..the organisation seems to be persons which contain What Where When and Who. I seem to be stuck with persons as the root."
Post a screen-clip of your keyword list - would be very helpful with answers.
If you are seeing a kw heirarchy like-
Persons
>Who
>What
Then you can simply 'drag' the {Who}and {What} categories up above {Persons} and then 'drag' {Persons} into {Who) so you see this-
What
Who
>Persons
A personal choice, I use Person name keywords in this format- SURNAME_FIRSTNAM
...H Terence,
You're welcome!
"have not yet figured out whether I could simply deleted the names listed below as they should belong to the People keyword"
At first look, it seems that those keywords (Aija,..) might duplicates, and if so you could deleted the ones in the other category. BUT if your "people" and "other" filters somehow overlap, showing some of the same results, then those people keywords are not duplicates at all. You should thus be very careful before deleting them.
To find out, just
...@sockit While in a 'learning phase' for Keywords- Just select the 'ALL' filter. Leave the 'People/Other' search filters for another day.
Then when you see all your Keywords in the one list it becomes easier to edit and re-arrange KWs.
'People' keywords are just the same as other keywords except for one item- They have the 'Person' box checked. It is only this check-box that determines if a KW appears with the 'People' filter.
So, with 'all' KWs showing you can Drag&Drop to re-arrange person n
...Hi Terence,
No need to rebuild everything from scratch. To move keywords to the top level, you must drag it either to the very top of the list or between two top level keywords, until you see a thin gray line before letting the mouse button go.
Tbat's how it looks if I want to drag my ~Action keyword to the top, to move it to the same level as ~~Stock keywords and ~ATTRIBUTE.
Whether you drag to the top or between keywords, you have to be precise, as it's just a few pixels tall where this line will
...You're welcome, Terence!
No secrets here... Stock photography just contains keywords that are not classified yet. I copied my keywords list from LrC to Bridge, where I do most of the keywording for Adobe Stock (that another topic entirely), but those I enter that do not exist yet are simply outside of my classification and I put them there until I can organize them.
Attribute is just one part of a complete (and complex) hierarchy, and it contains other sub-sections such as genre, age, number, colo
...collapsing misspelt names into the correct one
Using the Keyword List panel, you should see both the correct and the misspelt names, like this-
To correct this, I select ALL the files with the 'wrong' keyword and check (place a tick) in the 'correct' KW- (so files now have both wrong & correct KWs)
Then I remove the photos from the 'wrong' KW by unchecking-
Finally I [Delete] the wrong KW, and the selected files now have the 'correct' KW.
Terence, the headers in the KW List [All People Othe
...the number of identified photos
You must first identify, and show in Grid View, ALL photos with the 'wrong' KW, by clicking on the white arrow that appears at the end of a KW.
Then press [Ctrl +A] to be sure you select all that you want to 'convert' to the 'correct' KW. Other than that I am not sure why you see a difference.
No Name apology needed! My son indroduced my nik-name when he called me "Wobert the Wave Rat" (paddled a surf-ski with that brand at the time).
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"Maybe it is something to do with my attempt to add name tags to negatives manually as they have not been displayed by the white arrow."
"Manually"? If you mean that you used other software (eg. Bridge) to add the keywords, then Lr-Classic will not know about these KWs unless you force LrC to 'Read' the metadata, if at all possible (eg. XnView 'categories' will not be read by LrC).
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Hi Wobert I come back to you only via a new question that I raised which the system automatically referenced to this old conversation. I am happily filling in my keywords but now realise that I never really understood how you managed to get London under all the where hierarchy. Did you have to construct that manually or does the system do it for you if you have Continent Country etc filled in under different headings.? I am developing a huge list of interesting places and now find a need to separate those under country or city I was wondering how I could just look at a smaller list eg by city when I enter new data. To avoid double entries etc.
Thanks
Terence