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[Aidan34202061y26e]

Hey y'all,

For the last few months I've been encountering an irritating bug that I would love some help solving. 

I have a catalog of around 90,000 images--a mix of digital camera files as well as film scans. Running Mac OSX Sonoma 14.4.1 with Lightroom Classic 13.2 (CC, updating automatically).

The issue: In Library grid view, I see my edited images, but when I select an image, after a few seconds of "thinking", the edit dissapears and the image shows as if it just came straight from camera (unedited). This remains the same when I move into the Develop module. The edit history is still intact, so I simply have to navigate to the most recent (top line) of the edit history and select it to reload the edit. Almost like I'm reminding it that it's been edited. 

This bug only affects images from before a certain date. So if I import new images and edit them, they hold their edits just fine. But the majority of my libary is affected by this issue. It's not the end of the world because as I mentioned, the edit history is there. It's just an irritating step that I need to take. Going through and selecting the latest history for 90,000 images would take me forever. 

Is there a way of forcing Lightroom to apply the edit history as it does for my recently imported images? 

I have alreay tried building standerd previews for affected folders as well as reinstalling Lightroom. Neither have fixed the issue. 

I have also tried importing affected folders into a new catalog and some work but other folders trigger this message: "Lightroom couold not import this catalog because of and unknown error." 

Corrupred catalog maybe? What can I do about this?

Thanks!

[Aidan34202061y26e]

Update: I have now chatted with 4 agents who have all tried the same thigs and have all disconnected our screen share sessions as well as our help chats after not being able to resolve the issue. Stable internet connection. Feeling very frustrated and ready to switch to Capture One. 

[GoldingD]

Odd.

Bring up one of the photos that are giving you issues. One that you have not yet corrected. Bring up the Develop Module. Over on the left, go ahead  (if necessary) and minimize the Preset panel, the Snapshot panel, and the Collections panel. Point being to maximize the History panel visibility should any of those panels get in the way.

DO NOT change what History state is selected.

Take a full screen capture and paste that into a reply.

[Aidan34202061y26e]

Even just hovering over the latest edit history will preview the edit normally, and then it reverts when I move the cursor off that history mark. I can't screenshot this as even while screenshot is activated, as soon as the cursor moves off the history, it reverts. And if I were to click that history mark, it'd load and hold. I belive this is how it shoud normally work. Just weird that it isn't choosing to display the latest edit on its own...

[GoldingD]

• 

   So, that top history state is not selected, nor for that matter is any history state selected. As you have stated in your post. Very odd.

• I suspect that you have accomplished some develop setting copy/paste and/or syncs. is that true? Hence the "Multiple Settings"
• I have noticed the history state "Camera RAW Settings" in one other discussion. It is not clear to me just what the heck that is. Some discussion that it may relate to accomplishing some Camera RAW outside of LrC then bringing the modified image back into LrC. Not a clue how. Can you educate me on that?

You stated that his does not occur for new images? Correct? That the top history state is selected for those photos, correct?

[GoldingD]

I made an error in my request. I should have specified (more clearly) a desire to see more info on that screenshot. Specifically the Histogram as it might have some data/info that screams out "Oh thats an issue", and now that I think of it, the filmstrip (that may or may not so info depending upon view settings).

Can you post a new screenshot, with everything shown.

[Aidan34202061y26e]

Sure thing. Updated screenshot attached. 

As for the "Camera Raw Settings", I am using a plugin called Negative Lab Pro which is used for converting negatives into positives. This is a plugin widely used within the film commnity and is one that I've used for a few years without issue. Also, I should note, this edit history issue also affects folders of images that have not interacted with this plug in. Normal digital camera files, both Sone (.arw) and Leica (.dng). Additionally, new images that I bring into this plugin are not affected by the issue either. 

I don't know how the calalog file works, but it seems to me like a portion of it is corrupted. 

Lastnight I tried renaming and moving my preview file away from the catalog so that it would generate a new one, hoping the issue was maybe a corrupted previews.irdata but the problem persisted. 

I did get a follow up email from Adobe support requesting I send them the catalog agian so hopefully someone there is taking a look. 

Anyway, I appreciate your interest in figuring this out. 

[Aidan34202061y26e]

Here's screenshots of images from my Leica M10 (DNG), which did not ineract with the NLP plugin. No camera raw line in the histroy, so I don't think that's the issue. 

[DdeGannes]

@Aidan34202061y26e , just some thoughts.

Have you checked that you are using the latest update of NLP for your MacOS and the version of LrC you are using.

There is a user forum for NLP application, have you posted the problem you are having there? It is the author's of the Plug-in responsibility to ensure it is updated.

[oakleybloke]

I have the exact same issue as you, a very strange bug by the looks of it.

Have updated to Lightroom Classic 13.3 and it has the same issue but behaves slightly different. Now when Lightroom loads the previews it automatically changes the thumbnail image (before I had to click on the thumbnail) to a version with no edits applied, but the edit history is intact just with no history state selected.

This is happening to me with photos taken on or before 7th April 2024, newer photos fropm 11th May 2024 behave as you would expect. I did upgrade my computer during these dates but my library is on external drives anyway and when I open my library on the older machine it behaves in the same way as the newer machine.

I was wondering if you had any luck resolving the issue since yoyur last post?

Regards

David

[Aidan34202061y26e]

Hey David, sorry to hear it. After a VERY painful week of trying to keep an Adobe agent on the online chat long enough to understand the issue (I kept getting disconnected at around 30 min after being connected with an agent, and needing to start from ground zero each time--this happened maybe 8 times), I was eventually asked to upload and email them my catalog, which they said was corrupted, said they fixed, and sent back only to have it function the same. We went through this two more times before they said the catalog was corrupted beyond repair. My last backup that loaded previews correctly was from 6 months ago so I duplicated that and started importing recent work from the broken catalog. This proved difficult as if I tried to import from before an unknown date I'd encounter an error message and have to start over. But I eventually got the new files migrated over and things are working as they should.

I'd imagine your catalog got corrupted when you moved it onto the external drive? Hard to say. 

Sorry again. I wish Adobe had better support. Very frustrating. 

[oakleybloke]

Thanks for taking the time to get back to me Aiden, sounds like things have been very frustrating for you. Adobe support doesn't seem to live up to it's name so I'm glad you managed to figure something out. I will take your lead and have a look through my backups to see which is the last one that works and migrate using that version.

Many thanks for sharing your experience, fingers crossed this is just a one off occurance!

All the best

David

[Pixel_Hyperion]

Did anyone figure this out?

I seem to have the same issue and only way to fix seeminly is to select every photo and then select most recent history action. Thats 1.5 years of photos. Will take me forever to fix. 

[courtneyc21216982]

I'm having this issue too and it is keeping me from meeting a deadline. So frustrated! 

[amyh73281104]

Anyone discover a solution? I was just about to export a wedding after a good few wks of consistent editing, only to experience this same glitch. To manually reselect each image history is going to take FOREVER. MY deadline was Monday, I am reeling:(

[christinef58502318]

I have exactly the same issue - see my post - https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/thumbnails-not-reflecting-edits-history.... 

I use LR Classic very simply, jpegs, no syncing, no plug-ins, no copy and paste, no external anything, and yet I still have this problem (as well as the problem with previews not loading automatically).

No resolution as yet I'm afraid.

I wish Adobe would take this issue onboard!

[Kyle_H]

I am having the same issues!

[christinef58502318]

These issues also pre-date v14 so I have just done a new post summarising the issues faced by both myself and other users:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/problems-with-lost-edit-history-corrupt...

I hope there will be a solution!

[AtDetroit]

Same problem here. What is frustrating is that in Loupe view I see the Develop-edit version. When I click on it, it reverts to the original unedited file. In other words, it seems that it has the edits but then wipes them, so seemingly they could be recovered. Countless hours down the drain if this can't be corrected.

In the screenshots below are two thumbnails. In one, the edits appear. In the second, you can see where I have clicked on the left image, and it is now reverted to the unedited version. 

[christinef58502318]

Has anyone made any progress with these problems? 

I too have sent my catalog to Adobe, they returned (eventually) the 'repaired' catalog but sadly the issues persist.  

Clicking on the top step in the history panel for 100,000 photos is not a very good solution!  Plus if you filter in a folder for edited photos, the result is 'none'!  Plus, plus ....

Any more ideas people??  

[DdeGannes]

@christinef58502318 , Just a thought here, have you checked the option to "Automatically write Metadata to XMP" .

I have a question, so have you received a mismatch warning and selected the option to read metadata from the file? That option can alter the metadata contained in the Catalog file including the edits in the History panel.

Lightroom Classic default function is to read and write the Catalog data base file.

This can cause unexpected problems.

[christinef58502318]

Thank you so much for replying but no, I haven't 'imported from the disk' for any of the images.  I do have that mismatch warning on thousands of photos but have ignored it so far (though I don't understand why I am getting the warning as I haven't done anything outside of Lightroom!)!  

Adobe Customer Care are currently investigating my reply to them that the catalog repair didn't fix the problems, so I will await their answer.  Thank you again.

[DdeGannes]

@christinef58502318 , you should only get a warning if you have selected the option "Automatically write Metadata to XMP" selected or have manually used the option in the Library Module menu bar "Metadata > Save Metadata to the files".

If you get a warning make sure you retain the info in the Catalog.

I hope Adobe is able to repair your Catalog or you will have to use the latest backup you have.

[christinef58502318]

@DdeGannes thank you for your reply.  I have had "Automatically write Metadata to XMP" selected in the past (but no longer) due to fear of catalog corruption!  Unfortunately because of the issues raised by this whole post (top edit step not being highlighted) the information in the catalog does not reflect the edits!!  Hence a dilemma!

[christinef58502318]

@bcostin - I have received an email saying that you have upvoted my last comment.  Are you having the same issues with the top step in the edit history not being highlighted?