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Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
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August 13, 2024
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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Camera Raw feedback can be found here.
 
Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 
 
Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 
 
We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 
 
Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 
 
Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 
  • App version
  • System details
  • Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

 

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Participant
October 27, 2024

Using Generative AI to remove some background objects and it's not removing as well as say PS does. Also, it seems to take a ridiculously long time for the object to be selected, it was much quicker before. Anything I can do to help with either of those things? 

johnrellis
Legend
October 28, 2024

@PhotosbyPulelehua: "Using Generative AI to remove some background objects and it's not removing as well as say PS does."

 

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participant
October 26, 2024

Não consigo usar esse recurso já tem mais de uma semana. Aparece um erro "Falha na Remoção Generativa"

johnrellis
Legend
October 27, 2024

@educorreafoto: "I haven't been able to use this feature for over a week now. I get an error message saying "Generative Removal Failed""

 

Sometimes firewalls and anti-malware / anti-virus utilities incorrectly block some network requests from LR. Try these troubleshooting steps:

- Temporarily disable all the firewall / anti-malware on your computer. If that solves the problem, then add a specific exclusion for LR to the firewall's rules.

- Connect to another network, preferably one serviced by a different ISP. E.g. a Wifi connection of a neighbor, a coffee shop, work, or your phone's hotspot. Sometimes the routers in these networks block LR's requests, especially in authoritarian countries like China.

JLynnH
Participant
October 26, 2024

I feel the Beta version of Generative AI we had was much better than the end result.  I am getting so frustrated trying to get clean areas around things.  I guess i don't feel like it is identifying objects as well as it was.

johnrellis
Legend
October 27, 2024

@JLynnH: "I am getting so frustrated trying to get clean areas around things.  I guess i don't feel like it is identifying objects as well as it was."

 

I don't see in your screenshot what you're referring to?  In addition to calling out what's going wrong, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, including those who initially though LR 14 was doing worse, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

 

 

Participant
October 26, 2024

Want to remove electric lines in between font object an and background mountains.

AI removes houses, busches, trees in background mountains and enhances the electric lines to give them more contrast

 

This is not the desired effect.

Thanks

Herbert

johnrellis
Legend
October 27, 2024

@DrSo: "Want to remove electric lines in between font object an and background mountains."

 

Power lines can require a little extra care.  See this post:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-generative-remove-feedback-lr-classic-amp-lr-eco/m-p/14933071#M383679

 

Also note that Remove without Generative AI checked (the old content-aware remove) is sometimes easier to use than Generative AI Remove, though in all the examples provided in this thread, Generative Remove works.

 

if this doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participant
October 26, 2024

I tried out the new option for remove objects. And it took out half of the subjects face. No worries, I turned it off again. 

But now it is stuck on no matter what option the toggle switch is set to.  

Participant
October 25, 2024

It’s a shame that AI is only integrated for object removal! A localized generative AI would be very welcome! Until that happens, Luminar Neo will remain No. 1… (with regret).

Participant
October 25, 2024

Instead of removing the object, it replaces it with something similar and with a very artificial quality!

 

We want to REMOVE  the object and mainly, persons.

 

Thank you and keep up the good work. we are in the right way.

johnrellis
Legend
October 27, 2024

@fernando26737625pl84: "Instead of removing the object, it replaces it with something similar and with a very artificial quality!"

 

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participant
October 25, 2024

New version does not work nearly as good as the previous, before the update. Now it just keeps trying to replace the highlighted area with something slimliar, vs totally removing it. I have tried all the suggestions, and it still does the same thing. Was simply trying to remove a person and selected everything with space around, no shadows were present, and it kept offering replacements of different warped faced people. 2nd and 3rd attempts same thing, one set of suggestions were of people facing the other way (behind angle). Before update, this worked way better. Will have to go into PS to remove objects, adding another step to the process, but it does a waay better job.  

johnrellis
Legend
October 27, 2024

@erin_aasland: "Now it just keeps trying to replace the highlighted area with something slimliar, vs totally removing it. I have tried all the suggestions, and it still does the same thing. Was simply trying to remove a person and selected everything with space around, no shadows were present, and it kept offering replacements of different warped faced people."

 

If you're tried the techniques described in this article:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

then please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, including those who initially thought that LR 14 had changed things for the worse, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participant
October 25, 2024

I don't understand why, after I have made my edits, that they revert back and I have to go back through and regenerate the spots I have already done? And, then it generate something different than what I originally had going. What am I doing wrong? This is making editing 10x harder.

johnrellis
Legend
October 27, 2024

@Jessica35764566m3td: "I don't understand why, after I have made my edits, that they revert back and I have to go back through and regenerate the spots I have already done?"

 

LR 14.0 introduced a serious bug that caused this, which is why Adobe released 14.0.1 to address it. Even after updating to 14.0.1, some people have reported it can be quite fussy to get LR operating correctly again.  See this thread and Adobe employee Rikk Flohr's second reply at the top:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-subject-mask-from-previous-versions-are-requesting-an-update/idc-p/14921442

 

If you still experience the problem, please post in that thread with details of what you're observing, rather than continuing the discussion here.

Participant
October 25, 2024

The remove tool has suddenly become as slow as molasses for me, even when not using AI.

 

With the Generative AI option *unchecked*, each little spot I want to remove means waiting 20-30 valuable seconds, in which Lightroom Classic window turns black and stops responding, sometimes an addional process like "Bezel" appears in the Windows taskbar, then all the elements of the application refresh themselves, then finally the spot is removed. It's maddening!

johnrellis
Legend
October 27, 2024

@R Gearhart: "The remove tool has suddenly become as slow as molasses for me, even when not using AI."

 

As a first troubleshooting step, update your graphics driver by going directly to the manufacturer's web site:

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/kb/troubleshoot-gpu.html#solution-4


If that doesn't help, I recommend starting your own thread, rather than continuing the discussion here. It will get better attention. Be sure to copy/paste here the entire contents of the LR menu command Help > System Info -- that will let us see exactly which versions of hardware and software LR thinks you're running.