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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

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August 13, 2024
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.

Camera Raw feedback can be found here.

Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size.

Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now.

We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed.

Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots.

Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post:

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Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

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h�ctor_5348

Participant

Buenos días. Si bien la eliminación con IA resulta útil, en algunos casos funciona de maravillas, por ejemplo, con personas u objetos (bicicleta, estatuas), que se vean pequeños en relación al encuadre de la fotografía, pero en el caso de un automóvil en primer plano, se dificulta, ya que cambia de forma el objeto o sencillamente lo reemplaza por otro objeto similar. Un pequeño dolor de cabeza. Sé que es dificil aplicar este tipo de filtros, pero sería deseable su ajuste más fino. Muchas Gracias.

johnrellis

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@h�ctor_5348: "in the case of a car in the foreground, it is difficult, as it changes the shape of the object or simply replaces it with another similar object."

Make sure you select all of the car and any reflections or shadows of the car. See here for an example of what happens when you don't select shadows and reflections:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-generative-remove-feedback-lr-classic-amp-lr-eco/m-p/14946678#M384776

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Joshyi3

Known Participant

It looks like the AI tool is mistakenly flagging my request to remove the dog leash from the photo as a ‘prompt violation.’ I’m not sure why it’s reading this simple photo edit as a rule-breaking request—it’s just a standard edit in pet photography, nothing harmful or inappropriate.

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Patrick22616748c1sx

Participating Frequently

Now I'm waiting for someone to tell you to include the shadow and expand the selection you're making in order to fix this lol

johnrellis

Legend

@Patrick22616748c1sx: "I'm waiting for someone to tell you to include the shadow"

Obviously not applicable here. But I did just point out a shadow issue a few hours ago:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-generative-remove-feedback-lr-classic-amp-lr-eco/m-p/14947742#M384845

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patrice26925415ukla

Participant

Good morning

Same comment as already read below: I was rtying to remove a leaf on a sold color sky and it was replaced by a smaller leaf (all three versions) . Sad result when one consider that previous version (yet called "testing version") was working perfectly well.

johnrellis

Legend

@patrice26925415ukla: "I was rtying to remove a leaf on a sold color sky and it was replaced by a smaller leaf (all three versions) ."

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, including people who think that Remove has changed for the worse in LR 14, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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newplasticmachine

Known Participant

Most of the time, the remove tool is comically bad. It's better in Photoshop, but in Lightroom its unusable, I export everything to photoshop. Lightroom is becoming an organisational tool, not much more.

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loyalt

Participant

I find this comment to be a tad ridiculous and quite inaccurate. Lightroom
is fantastic as an editing tool, much more user friendly than PS and so
much more than just "an organizational tool." I am a professional sports
and portrait photographer and use Lightroom exclusively.

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stevefry77

Participant

My first impression is that it is flat-out horrible. I have tried it many times, and it just does not remove unwanted objects. What is seen in the video on the old West set is something I cannot duplicate. My latest attempt was an image of a white tablecloth upon which is part of a fork and a keychain. I try to remove the fork part, but all I get are different versions of a fork. Back to PS it is.

johnrellis

Legend

@stevefry77: "My latest attempt was an image of a white tablecloth upon which is part of a fork and a keychain. I try to remove the fork part, but all I get are different versions of a fork."

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

philchavanne

Participating Frequently

I have 2 observations to share: (a) The white line bordering the AI Remove area makes it hard to see how smoothly the AI action blends with the rest of the photograph.. You have to accept a change to get this white line to disappear, then blow up the area to see the blend, and then redo if the blend isn't smooth. It would be useful to have a toggle to hide that line before selecting one of the 3 changes generated; (b) If 2 areas are selected that do not have the same level of light or shadow density, the AI Remove will get one right and the other wrong. I have to work with separate masks.

johnrellis

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@philchavanne: "The white line bordering the AI Remove area makes it hard to see how smoothly the AI action blends with the rest of the photograph"

Set Tool Overlay to Auto:

When you move the mouse out of the photo proper, the overlay will disappear.

"If 2 areas are selected that do not have the same level of light or shadow density, the AI Remove will get one right and the other wrong."

Please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so Adobe can see the issue in detail. Call out the areas giving the problem.

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efficient_dancer5CC7

Participant

When I try to remove something with the AI remove function of lightroom, instead of removing, all the proposals are to remplace. For example : instead of removing a car, it propose te replace by another car ! When I try to generate again, it still propose another car to replace !! It's a bug or to I have to modify a parameter ?

C.Cella

Inspiring

@efficient_dancer5CC7 you can't do much about it.

I want to make an example:
Original photo

I refreshed and I got 0 success rate upon several tries.

I open the image in Photoshop and entered instruction "Street"
Failure again, I was no specific enough so Ai "thought" that "street" could have a car (makes sense tbh)

But in Photoshop I can add more instructions to guide the AI

So I wrote "Street, no cars"
Success !

One of the 3 versions works.

The other ones are silly, I got giant walking furry creatures.

• BUT in Photoshop at least one can guide the AI so at last we are not at total mercy of what AI "thinks" will work.

One way to have higher success rate would be to have instructions.

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johnrellis

Legend

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This is a great working example. The car is casting a shadow that extends down to the bottom edge, and when you don't select the shadow too, Remove generates a replacement that tries to match the remaining shadow. Using the screenshot with the generated car, here's what happens when you don't select the shadow:

When you include the shadow, the first variant has replaced the car with matching buildings, wall, yellow curb, and street and even generated a reflection for the pole:

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loyalt

Participant

Thank you for the Early Access to Generative Remove. I am a professional photographer, both action sports and portraits. I am enjoying using this feature. There are many times, though, when it doesn't really remove the item circled, such as acne blemishes on high school seniors. That is my only suggestion. So far, it is very easy to use and I will use it often! Thank you!

johnrellis

Legend

@loyalt: "There are many times, though, when it doesn't really remove the item circled, such as acne blemishes on high school seniors."

Adobe recommends using the other remove tools for small spots: Remove mode with Generative AI unchecked (the old content-aware), Heal mode, or Clone mode.

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arek_dofuture

Participant

It works awfully after the update. Prior, it wasn't the best but it worked rather well. I considered all the tips and hints about reflections and shadows, and as a result, I keep getting some glow of the object (person in this case) I try to remove. For Photoshop it works flawlessly.

johnrellis

Legend

@arek_dofuture: " I keep getting some glow of the object"

Are you applying Remove on top of an AI mask (e.g. Sky or Background)? If so, do Settings > Update AI Settings to recompute the AI mask; or delete the mask, do Remove, then reapply the mask.

If this doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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Dario33844999kwmm

Participant

Buongiorno

Purtroppo con l'ultima versione Lr Classic la rimozione generativa AI non funziona molto bene, problemi a rimuovere linee elettriche e altri oggetti sottili, per il momento devo usare photoshop, che questo fa un lavoro eccellente

Grazie

johnrellis

Legend

@Dario33844999kwmm: "problems removing power lines and other thin objects"

Detect Objects doesn't work well with thin objects, so uncheck it. See this previous post and my two replies for how to remove lines:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-generative-remove-feedback-lr-classic...

If that doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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