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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

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August 13, 2024
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.

Camera Raw feedback can be found here.

Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size.

Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now.

We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed.

Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots.

Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post:

App version
System details
Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

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philchavanne

Participating Frequently

I have 2 observations to share: (a) The white line bordering the AI Remove area makes it hard to see how smoothly the AI action blends with the rest of the photograph.. You have to accept a change to get this white line to disappear, then blow up the area to see the blend, and then redo if the blend isn't smooth. It would be useful to have a toggle to hide that line before selecting one of the 3 changes generated; (b) If 2 areas are selected that do not have the same level of light or shadow density, the AI Remove will get one right and the other wrong. I have to work with separate masks.

johnrellis

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@philchavanne: "The white line bordering the AI Remove area makes it hard to see how smoothly the AI action blends with the rest of the photograph"

Set Tool Overlay to Auto:

When you move the mouse out of the photo proper, the overlay will disappear.

"If 2 areas are selected that do not have the same level of light or shadow density, the AI Remove will get one right and the other wrong."

Please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so Adobe can see the issue in detail. Call out the areas giving the problem.

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efficient_dancer5CC7

Participant

When I try to remove something with the AI remove function of lightroom, instead of removing, all the proposals are to remplace. For example : instead of removing a car, it propose te replace by another car ! When I try to generate again, it still propose another car to replace !! It's a bug or to I have to modify a parameter ?

C.Cella

Inspiring

@efficient_dancer5CC7 you can't do much about it.

I want to make an example:
Original photo

I refreshed and I got 0 success rate upon several tries.

I open the image in Photoshop and entered instruction "Street"
Failure again, I was no specific enough so Ai "thought" that "street" could have a car (makes sense tbh)

But in Photoshop I can add more instructions to guide the AI

So I wrote "Street, no cars"
Success !

One of the 3 versions works.

The other ones are silly, I got giant walking furry creatures.

• BUT in Photoshop at least one can guide the AI so at last we are not at total mercy of what AI "thinks" will work.

One way to have higher success rate would be to have instructions.

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johnrellis

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This is a great working example. The car is casting a shadow that extends down to the bottom edge, and when you don't select the shadow too, Remove generates a replacement that tries to match the remaining shadow. Using the screenshot with the generated car, here's what happens when you don't select the shadow:

When you include the shadow, the first variant has replaced the car with matching buildings, wall, yellow curb, and street and even generated a reflection for the pole:

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loyalt

Participant

Thank you for the Early Access to Generative Remove. I am a professional photographer, both action sports and portraits. I am enjoying using this feature. There are many times, though, when it doesn't really remove the item circled, such as acne blemishes on high school seniors. That is my only suggestion. So far, it is very easy to use and I will use it often! Thank you!

johnrellis

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@loyalt: "There are many times, though, when it doesn't really remove the item circled, such as acne blemishes on high school seniors."

Adobe recommends using the other remove tools for small spots: Remove mode with Generative AI unchecked (the old content-aware), Heal mode, or Clone mode.

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arek_dofuture

Participant

It works awfully after the update. Prior, it wasn't the best but it worked rather well. I considered all the tips and hints about reflections and shadows, and as a result, I keep getting some glow of the object (person in this case) I try to remove. For Photoshop it works flawlessly.

johnrellis

Legend

@arek_dofuture: " I keep getting some glow of the object"

Are you applying Remove on top of an AI mask (e.g. Sky or Background)? If so, do Settings > Update AI Settings to recompute the AI mask; or delete the mask, do Remove, then reapply the mask.

If this doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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Dario33844999kwmm

Participant

Buongiorno

Purtroppo con l'ultima versione Lr Classic la rimozione generativa AI non funziona molto bene, problemi a rimuovere linee elettriche e altri oggetti sottili, per il momento devo usare photoshop, che questo fa un lavoro eccellente

Grazie

johnrellis

Legend

@Dario33844999kwmm: "problems removing power lines and other thin objects"

Detect Objects doesn't work well with thin objects, so uncheck it. See this previous post and my two replies for how to remove lines:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-generative-remove-feedback-lr-classic...

If that doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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PhotosbyPulelehua

Participant

Using Generative AI to remove some background objects and it's not removing as well as say PS does. Also, it seems to take a ridiculously long time for the object to be selected, it was much quicker before. Anything I can do to help with either of those things?

johnrellis

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@PhotosbyPulelehua: "Using Generative AI to remove some background objects and it's not removing as well as say PS does."

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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educorreafoto

Participant

Não consigo usar esse recurso já tem mais de uma semana. Aparece um erro "Falha na Remoção Generativa"

johnrellis

Legend

@educorreafoto: "I haven't been able to use this feature for over a week now. I get an error message saying "Generative Removal Failed""

Sometimes firewalls and anti-malware / anti-virus utilities incorrectly block some network requests from LR. Try these troubleshooting steps:

- Temporarily disable all the firewall / anti-malware on your computer. If that solves the problem, then add a specific exclusion for LR to the firewall's rules.

- Connect to another network, preferably one serviced by a different ISP. E.g. a Wifi connection of a neighbor, a coffee shop, work, or your phone's hotspot. Sometimes the routers in these networks block LR's requests, especially in authoritarian countries like China.

JLynnH

Participant

I feel the Beta version of Generative AI we had was much better than the end result. I am getting so frustrated trying to get clean areas around things. I guess i don't feel like it is identifying objects as well as it was.

johnrellis

Legend

@JLynnH: "I am getting so frustrated trying to get clean areas around things. I guess i don't feel like it is identifying objects as well as it was."

I don't see in your screenshot what you're referring to? In addition to calling out what's going wrong, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, including those who initially though LR 14 was doing worse, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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DrSo

Participant

Want to remove electric lines in between font object an and background mountains.

AI removes houses, busches, trees in background mountains and enhances the electric lines to give them more contrast

This is not the desired effect.

Thanks

Herbert

johnrellis

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@DrSo: "Want to remove electric lines in between font object an and background mountains."

Power lines can require a little extra care. See this post:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-generative-remove-feedback-lr-classic-amp-lr-eco/m-p/14933071#M383679

Also note that Remove without Generative AI checked (the old content-aware remove) is sometimes easier to use than Generative AI Remove, though in all the examples provided in this thread, Generative Remove works.

if this doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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GavinGreenwalt

Participant

I tried out the new option for remove objects. And it took out half of the subjects face. No worries, I turned it off again.

But now it is stuck on no matter what option the toggle switch is set to.

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