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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

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August 13, 2024
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.

Camera Raw feedback can be found here.

Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size.

Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now.

We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed.

Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots.

Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post:

App version
System details
Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

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DhandaNot

Known Participant

I am trying to select the cable to remove it. but after releasing the mouse, I find some other area is selected. Extremely frustrating. Lightroom Classic: 14.0.1 Release with Camera Raw 17.0

DhandaNot

johnrellis

Legend

@DhandaNot: "I am trying to select the cable to remove it. but after releasing the mouse, I find some other area is selected."

Uncheck Detect Objects (on by default in LR 14) -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos.

Also, see this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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Montpat

Participant

I find that generative deletion works pretty well on backgrounds or clearly defined objects... but there's still one big point to be dealt with: dust in light areas on old photos (slides or film) scanned or retaken with a digital camera.
Why do we still have to deal with these dusts or defects individually when we can easily highlight the defects? Why can't we select all the dusts in a photo by selecting just a few? This seems to me to be much simpler than these generative deletions. If you can solve this problem or if you have another solution to suggest, I'd love to hear from you.

Best regards, Patrick

johnrellis

Legend

@Montpat: "Why do we still have to deal with these dusts or defects individually when we can easily highlight the defects?"

Please add your upvote and constructive opinion to this feature request;

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-ideas/p-pleases-add-dust-and-scratches-to-lr-classic/idi-p/14197368

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toddw40199643

Participant

Just tried the remove after the latest update. Fortuneately I had carried out some demanding removal of a car from this image using the previous version and I was pretty happy with the result. The new one delivers a consistently lower resolution result than the beta version. I have attached the best offering. If you compare the railings and the paving, the older is always sharper.

johnrellis

Legend

@toddw40199643: "The new one delivers a consistently lower resolution result than the beta version."

I don't think the resolution of the replacement patches has changed -- Adobe Firefly has always returned 2048 x 2048 replacement patches. Something else might be going on, and it would be good to identify what and possibly file a bug report. To help, please select the "good" image, do the command Metadata > Save Metadata To File, and upload it and its .xmp sidecar (if it's raw) to Wetransfer, Dropbox, Google Drive, or some other free service and post the sharing link here.

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Darren25519603zxa6

Participant

im finding the AI Remove tool very frustrating lately. when i try to remove an object, it always seems to replace it with a different variation of the object im trying to remove. also,im finding that unless the object is clear of anything else, it struggles. it claimes it removes from complex images but i find this not to be the case most of the time.Ai is of couse in its infancy,but of late it sem to be getting worse not better.

johnrellis

Legend

@Darren25519603zxa6: "when i try to remove an object, it always seems to replace it with a different variation of the object im trying to remove. also,im finding that unless the object is clear of anything else, it struggles."

First, uncheck Detect Objects (on by default in LR 14) -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos. If that doesn't help, then see this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Shawn Pridgen

Participant

Would be really cool if we could just put a ribbon, black square , red square, censorship button or something to denote censorship of nudity and graphic images, right in lightroom without going to photoshop. I'm talking about something super simple, just for social media, nothing too detialed or complicated - would be cool if instagram actually let you apply censorship labels ontop of photos in app. but I think you guys should think about adding a VERY SIMPLE feature like this for lightroom classic and the mobile app.

C.Cella

Inspiring

@Shawn Pridgen

You can censor images by apllying a radial filter with 0 Feather and Exposure -4 and Amount 200 in case

Export or publish with the censorish THEN hide the Correction used for censorship OR delete it.

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Diebold Photographie

Participant

Hi, I was so happy to see that adobe included AI to correct imperfections on photographies. Unfortunately, it doesn't work at all for me and it's worse than before the update. I just try to delete a very little thing on the top of my photography and the result give me a bigger imperfection than before...

Very disappointing when you see that a google smartphone can do better...

johnrellis

Legend

@Diebold Photographie: "I just try to delete a very little thing on the top of my [photograph] and the result give me a bigger imperfection than before"

Removing objects along the edge of a photo requires a little extra care. First, uncheck Detect Objects (on by default in LR 14) -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos. Second, undo any Crop, Lens Correction, and Transform, apply Remove, then reapply those commands. Remove tries to match the unselected cropped-out pixels.

For more details, see this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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Manuel38407307rqw1

Participant

Estoy teniendo problemas con la eliminación generativa, no puedo usarla, cada vea que la uso me sale este mensaje "Eliminación generativa a fallado"

¿Como puedo solucionarlo?

johnrellis

Legend

@Manuel38407307rqw1: "I'm having problems with generative elimination, I can't use it, every time I use it I get this message"

That error corresponds to this LR English error message:

"$$$/Clio/StatusCode/HTTP/Forbidden=We've encountered an issue and can't complete your request at this time. Please try again later."

Sometimes firewalls and anti-malware / anti-virus utilities incorrectly block some network requests from LR. Try these troubleshooting steps:

- Temporarily disable all the firewall / anti-malware on your computer. If that solves the problem, then add a specific exclusion for LR to the firewall's rules.

- Connect to another network, preferably one serviced by a different ISP. E.g. a Wifi connection of a neighbor, a coffee shop, work, or your phone's hotspot. Sometimes the routers in these networks block LR's requests, especially in authoritarian countries like China.