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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

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August 13, 2024
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.

Camera Raw feedback can be found here.

Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size.

Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now.

We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed.

Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots.

Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post:

App version
System details
Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

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easygoing_Explorer5DC4

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When I use Generative Remove and hit the Generate Button the eraser and marks remain so I cannot see the changes underneith until I close it, also if I want to see Variations 1-3 I can't because the eraser and marks are still there until I close it.

johnrellis

Legend

@easygoing_Explorer5DC4: "the eraser and marks remain so I cannot see the changes underneath until I close it"

Set Tool Overlay to Auto, and when you move the mouse off of the photo, the brush outlines and eraser icons will disappear:

You can also use the keyboard shortcut H to cycle Tool Overlay between Always and Never.

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easygoing_Explorer5DC4

Participant

Thanks, I will try that.

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photobrad

Participant

Please...for the love of god!!!!! stop putting random objects back in when we use the remove tool. It is not.....the replace object tool. it is the remove tool.

Stop putting objects back in.....remove the what we are trying to remove, rebuild the background to match and stop!!!!!

Rikk Flohr_Photography

Author

@photobrad

See: https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
Also see: https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-new-ai-powered-generative-remove-early-access-available-across-all-surfaces/td-p/14587279

These two posts will aid you in using the tool to get better results.

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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photobrad

Participant

No!!!!!!!

fix your tool!!!!

there are 652 posts here most of which telling you the same thing. Idk what Victoria Bampton wants everone to do.

fix ths blessed thing!!!! Remove what we need.

tell your g d ai system to NEVER EVER replace what we highligted. Always remove it.

make a secondary tool called the REPLACE object tool if u must but as it exists rn in LR....its beyond frustrating to use and always for the same reason. Stop dancing around the problem several hundred people told you is the problem and just fix it!!!!!

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Akshay Harshe Photography

Participant

Hi there, The generative remove works for me in simpler cases but leaves a hard edge around the removal area when the sorrounding area is fairly blank. See the screenshot below where I removed the tree and it leaves the edge and doesn't blend correctly. I am using the latest light room version: 14.0.1

johnrellis

Legend

@Akshay Harshe Photography: "generative remove ... leaves a hard edge around the removal area when the surrounding area is fairly blank."

One cause of this is applying Remove on top of an AI mask, e.g. a Sky mask. Looking at your screenshot, I don't think you did that in this case, but if you did, do Settings > Update AI Settings to recompute the mask.

But in general, Generative Remove (in both LR and PS) sometimes doesn't match the tone of the replacements very well with the original. That looks like the case here. You can ameliorate the problem by using the Heal tool on top of the Remove replacement, using smaller individual irregularly shaped heal strokes along the hard edge:

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Akshay Harshe Photography

Participant

Hi John,

Thanks for your reply. I don't have any other AI masks around here. But yes, I used a healing brush on top of the edge to fix that issue. It would be nice to have a Feather setting for the Generative Remove stuff, but this could be by design. In that case, softer blending or an option to feather after will be nice to have.

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Gary_Robles8438

Participant

This simply does not work. I highlight the area I want removed and nothing happens, regardless if it's AI, clone or remove. I am using LR classic v13.4

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Andrew22540702ffi5

Participant

Leaving the same complaint as many other people here.

The feature simply doesn't work. Yes I have read the tips of expanding the search area, but it provides similar issues where the AI cant detect the inconsistencies.

Frustrating to be paying more money year after year for more features that do not work properly.

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sherwood77

Participating Frequently

Ditto that.
This feature needs some Maintenance ASAP as it works in competitive
products from different vendors.

David Kenny
203-644-9044
sherwood77b@gmail.com
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"The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches
behind it." - Ansel Adams

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johnw53783389

Participant

Often when I use the generative AI remove feature it replaces instead of removing. For example, I tried to remove a person but it replaced it with another person. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?

johnrellis

Legend

@johnw53783389: "when I use the generative AI remove feature it replaces instead of removing."

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly every of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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jeanleon83

Participant

only part of the selected object was removed ( all 3 options)

johnrellis

Legend

@jeanleon83: "only part of the selected object was removed"

1. Uncheck Detect Objects (on by default in LR 14) -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos.

2. See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly every of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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Lucas Saporiti

Participant

The generative remove in LR doens't work most of the time. For exemple: when i try to remove people on background, in the most of time LR create a bizzare person instead of remove. The same happen when i try remove cables or elements on the walls. Instead of remove, LR create something bizzare.

johnrellis

Legend

@Lucas Saporiti: "when i try to remove people on background, in the most of time LR create a bizarre person instead of remove. The same happen when i try remove cables or elements on the walls."

1. Uncheck Detect Objects (on by default in LR 14) -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos.

2. See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly every of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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jeff_5655

Participant

My situation was to remove a large clip (from a clip on light) on the edge of the inside of a piano - tried your removal tool for the first time and it seemed to get the idea (unlike some AIs) but it took the 2nd variation to nail it. Saved me a HUGE amount of time. Very helpful.

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defaultf0o27x12y4f8

Participant

For Heaven's sake, Adobe. JUST MAKE THE FUNCTIONS THAT ARE IN PHOTOSHOP AND LIGHTROOM (CLASSIC) WORK THE SAME!!!!! The "Remove" function within LrC SUCKS whereas the one in PS does work. I shouldn't have to jump from LrC to PS just to do a single function. Get your act together!

johnrellis

Legend

@defaultf0o27x12y4f8: "The "Remove" function within LrC SUCKS whereas the one in PS does work."

Generative Remove does work the same in both, but because of LR's non-destructive editing model, there are some things you have to spend a few minutes learning about in order to get the best results:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly every of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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