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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

  • August 13, 2024
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Camera Raw feedback can be found here.
 
Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 
 
Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 
 
We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 
 
Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 
 
Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 
  • App version
  • System details
  • Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

 

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    Koko B
    Participant
    February 18, 2025

      I'd love to use it for the set of archival images I'm cleaning up. Unfortunately, It doesn't seem to be able to render/match the grain.       PS The new performance improvement in 14.2 seems to make the gen faster.  It also seems to dramatically slow the heal tool over 60 or so heals  

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    colinm39398726
    Participant
    February 17, 2025

    a great new release takes just a couple of minutes compared to having to keep switching to photopshop and back and still not getting as good results

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    ed_0993
    Participant
    February 15, 2025

    Why does the remove tool work well for a while, then stop working? This happened to me tonight as I'm editing important shots, and it's happened in the past. Very strange and frustrating. 

    johnrellis
    johnrellis
    Legend
    February 15, 2025

    @ed_0993: "Why does the remove tool work well for a while, then stop working?"

     

    Does it immediately work again after you restart LR?

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    roberth62521040
    Inspiring
    February 14, 2025

    Updated my programs today. Applied changes and remove objects from my conference photos today. applied adaptive portrait changes. Looked at them again and the changes were deleted and that I needed to update them again. Waste of time because I have to have the photos loaded ASAP!

    johnrellis
    johnrellis
    Legend
    February 14, 2025

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    @roberth62521040: "Applied changes and remove objects from my conference photos today. applied adaptive portrait changes. Looked at them again and the changes were deleted and that I needed to update them again."

     

    To verify, are you seeing red dots next to "Basic", under the Remove tool icon, or both?

     

     

     

     

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    roberth62521040
    Inspiring
    February 14, 2025
    Both - lrc. Sometime one or the other, other times both. Reapply, close
    and the changes are gone.
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    funny_MeadowB82D
    Participant
    February 14, 2025

    Generative Remove is often incredible, truly. Sometimes it fails miserably, with more complex indoor scenes. Removed some people and objects from photos of a motocross event and it was amazing. Tried to do that with photos of a basketball game, results were mixed, and required extensive manual refinements. My main gripe is how it interprets the initial selection of object to be removed. It highlights the object, but adds a huge buffer of selection around the object. So big that it MUST be reduced manually for the Generative Remove to do its best job. I would like to see the AI behind this tool identify the objects I select more cleanly and require little to no manual adjustments to the selection before clicking remove. My phone can do this! I know it will likely work much better, but please get more teams on this! Great tool to be sure!!

    johnrellis
    johnrellis
    Legend
    February 14, 2025

    @funny_MeadowB82D: "My main gripe is how it interprets the initial selection of object to be removed. It highlights the object, but adds a huge buffer of selection around the object. So big that it MUST be reduced manually for the Generative Remove to do its best job."

     

    I find it more productive simply to keep Detect Objects unchecked.  As you've observed, it too often works poorly, and it fails completely with skinny objects (poles and lines) and with objects near the edges of the photo.

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    CristaLee
    Participant
    February 13, 2025

    I’ve encountered significant issues with the removal tool in Lightroom. Despite using the latest hardware (M4 chip), the tool failed to remove any of the selected elements. This has been extremely frustrating, especially given the expectations for performance on this setup. It is Feb 13th 2025.   Brutal Adobe

     

     

    johnrellis
    johnrellis
    Legend
    February 13, 2025

    @CristaLee: "the tool failed to remove any of the selected elements."

     

    After clicking Remove, make sure the Opacity slider is 100. A likely bug in LR sometimes sets it to 0.

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    CristaLee
    Participant
    February 14, 2025

    Ok!  Thank you John!  I must be doing something wrong with it.  All the YouTube videos that I have seen the tool worked so well.  I will look for the opacity, it could be something as such that is making the tool not function for me.

         

    tobiasschorr
    tobiasschorr
    Participating Frequently
    February 10, 2025

    Hello!
    I have been working with Lightroom for the last 20 years, but what is going on now, is not anymore great! If I work on a collection after a journey, I have to rely, that my settings of changes are saved in an xml or similar file inside Lightroom, so I can work on the collection even after a break and can export all photos as tiff ore anything else. This time Lightroom failed completely! It forgot the settings! So the photos I exported, were losing the chages I made with AI, the lost the correctures of dust spots and perspective corrections. So I have to do all the job from beginning! It means, that something is going wrong with the memory inside Lightroom. May be you should test AI more before giving us the updates! We have to rely on Adobe to give us a product, that is reliable all the time! I hate β-software!




    johnrellis
    johnrellis
    Legend
    February 10, 2025

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    @tobiasschorr: "It forgot the settings! "

     

    LR lost the bit masks computed from your Remove and masking brush strokes, as indicated by the red dots:

     

    But it didn't remove the brush strokes themselves. Selecting all the photos in Library and doing Photo > Develop Settings > Update AI Settings will recompute the bit masks, as your screenshot shows it is doing:

     

     

    A bug with similar symptoms was fixed in LR 14.0.1. Do the menu command Help > System Info to see if you're on the latest version (14.1.1), and if not, do Help > Updates.

     

    If this doesn't please, please start a new thread describing your symptoms in detail, and include the full output from Help > System Info.

     

    tobiasschorr
    tobiasschorr
    Participating Frequently
    February 9, 2025

    I was working on about 1200 photos (slides) and I used some correctures with AI. Today I tried to export the collection, but the most work I did with AI is lost. It asks me to "actualize" the AI work I did. So lots of hours for nothing! The exported files have all the dust, scratches, cables, etc. I removed with AI. That is VERY disappointing! If I can not rely on this AI, why should I use it?

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    Gerard38305403cjab
    Participating Frequently
    February 8, 2025

    WORDT TOTAAL NIET ONTHOUDEN
    ZOALS EERDER GEZEGD

    johnrellis
    johnrellis
    Legend
    February 9, 2025

    @Gerard38305403cjab: "NOT REMEMBERED AT ALL AS SAID BEFORE"

     

    If you're referring to the issue where LR is forcing you to recompute masks when you came back to a photo by doing Settings > Update AI Settings, that bug was fixed in LR 14.0.1.  Do the menu command Help > System Info to see if you're on the latest version (14.1.1), and if not, do Help > Updates.

     

    If this doesn't please, please start a new thread describing your symptoms in detail, and include the full output from Help > System Info.

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    Dale329366679r4b
    Participant
    February 6, 2025

    This new AI sucks. Give me back the old version!

     

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