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Slow when using a mask in LRC 13

Enthusiast ,
May 10, 2024 May 10, 2024

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Desktop PC.  I9-12900, 64GB memory, GPU is an Nvidia 4060TI.  All the storage is on M.2 NVMe with images on an 8 TB SSD. 

Images are nothing special – I see the same behavior whether it’s a 20 megapixel image or a 50 megapixel one.

 

I looked through several of the topics in here (some from older versions, some from LRC13) from other people having performance issues with Lightroom 13.X.  Hopefully, I’ve missed something simple, but I didn’t see much to resolve the problems.

 

I have to add myself to the people having problems with slow, laggy, hanging operations in Lightroom 13.

 

I upgraded from the AMD GPU that worked OK with LRC 12 to the 4060 TI was because once I started using LRC 13, performance deteriorated.  I thought throwing a more capable GPU at the problem would cure it.  Didn’t work. 

 

It’s not a problem as near as I can tell when doing normal, “adjust sliders in Develop” or “select a keyword” sort of adjustments.  But when doing things like masks, particularly brush masks, the cursor just stops and hangs for up to several seconds, then resumes.  It makes getting accurate selections more difficult because the cursor isn’t smooth.  Zooming to 100% to make more accurate selections makes it worse.

 

Similar behavior can happen when using the Lens Blur – the cursor hangs when doing Blur or Focus and when making adjustments in Visualize Depth.  I also see it occasionally when doing content-aware remove, but I only use that very rarely in Lightroom. 

 

I was also hoping for faster exports, faster 1:1 previews, and so on.  Not much happened there either, but I can live with that if I can get rid of the hanging and lag.

I don’t see this behavior with any of the tools in Photoshop.

I don’t see the behavior in Topaz Photo AI, which runs perceptibly faster with the 4060 than with the old GPU.

 

I’ve done the “standard” things I believe.  Tried no graphics acceleration – just made everything slower.  And the partial acceleration.  And full acceleration.  The lag, hang and such is always there. 

 

I disabled the onboard GPU.

 

I opened the Nvidia control panel and added both Lightroom and Photoshop in there.

 

I've made sure it' susing the durrent drivers.  I've tried both the studio and game-ready drivers.

 

Are there settings for the GPU in the Nvidia control panel that can be configured to make Lightroom (and Photoshop, but mostly Lightroom) perform significantly better?

Are there other things I should try that are likely to address the problem?  System configuration?  Something in Lightroom configuration? 

Has Adobe said anything about being aware of the problem and trying to correct it?

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Explorer ,
Sep 09, 2024 Sep 09, 2024

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Yup. Just realized it is the masks that f up everything... Just applied masks and it is slow as hell. They don't really care. All the care about subscription. Come on Adobe...

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Participant ,
Sep 11, 2024 Sep 11, 2024

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Do you by any chance overclock your CPU?

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 11, 2024 Sep 11, 2024

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Hi,

 

Same issue for me.

 

I5 13600K 64 GB ram, RTX 3060 12 GB Nvram.

 

I remaster my computer from scratch with latest drivers nothing change ....

 

What the hell adobe ?

 

 

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Participant ,
Sep 16, 2024 Sep 16, 2024

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Did you overclock your computer in BIOS?

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Enthusiast ,
Sep 16, 2024 Sep 16, 2024

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I'm not sure who this question is aimed at, but in my case, my desktop has not been overclocked.  The 12900 is running at the standard speed and has never been overclocked.

 

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Participant ,
Sep 16, 2024 Sep 16, 2024

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To anybody with this issue actually. 

Recently I had an unrelated issue with my computer so I had to reset my overclock to "Optimized defaults" in BIOS and now Lightroom Classic runs fine so I thought the issue might be connected to some BIOS setting that doesn't play well with Lightroom under heavy load.

I guess that's not the issue than.

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Participant ,
Sep 17, 2024 Sep 17, 2024

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Definitely has nothing to do with the overclock. I did some editing and it became a complete stutterfest as usual after doing some masking. 

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 20, 2024 Sep 20, 2024

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my problem is same in Lightroom & camera Raw. New build  Intel i9-14900k  Nvidia 4060 TI (8Gb) 32gb ram. when i click masking tools lag start and that time ram goes 23 to 25 gb. I have contacted Adobe customer support several times and it has not been resolved. I faced this problem 3 months ago, the problem still exists

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 13, 2024 Nov 13, 2024

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I have exactly the same problem, as soon as I create even 1 simple mask, Adobe becomes extremely slow and unworkable. (Intel I9 13900k processor - 64Gb RAM - NVIDIA RTX 4070)
Do you already have a solution for the problem?

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 13, 2024 Nov 13, 2024

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I have exactly the same problem, as soon as I create even 1 simple mask, Adobe becomes extremely slow and unworkable. If I don't use a mask, everything works super fast

(Intel I9 13900k processor - 64Gb RAM - NVIDIA RTX 4070)
Do you already have a solution for the problem?

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LEGEND ,
Nov 13, 2024 Nov 13, 2024

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@sanderb97552833: "as soon as I create even 1 simple mask, Adobe becomes extremely slow and unworkable."

 

Most problems with LR's AI commands are caused by older, buggy graphics drivers. Try updating your graphics driver by going directly to the manufacturer's web site:
https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/kb/troubleshoot-gpu.html#solution-4


If that doesn't help, please copy/paste here the entire contents of the LR menu command Help > System Info -- that will let us see exactly which versions of hardware and software LR thinks you're running.

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Participant ,
Nov 13, 2024 Nov 13, 2024

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Did you even read anything posted in this thread? Offering a solution like update your drivers is unbelievable.

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LEGEND ,
Nov 13, 2024 Nov 13, 2024

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@TomazDrnovsek-old, did you even read the many, many dozens of posts in this forum about slow performance and other misbehavior that were fixed by updating graphics drivers?  Not all problems are caused by buggy graphics drivers, but a large fraction are.  It's fallacious to assume that just because it hasn't helped a few previous posters in this thread, it won't help a new poster whose problems may very well not have the same cause as yours. Unbelievable.

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Nov 13, 2024 Nov 13, 2024

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That's why I wrote my post. I've seen your countless suggestions to update the drivers but I haven't seen a single person saying this resolved this issue for them. I don't know where those dozens of posts are. My sincere apologies if I missed them but I just re-read the whole thread and wasn't able to find a single one.

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Explorer ,
Nov 13, 2024 Nov 13, 2024

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Agree :hundred_points:

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LEGEND ,
Nov 16, 2024 Nov 16, 2024

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@TomazDrnovsek-old: "I've seen your countless suggestions to update the drivers but I haven't seen a single person saying this resolved this issue for them. "

 

Facts are stubborn things. Just in the last year:

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/lightroom-classice-13-3-1-windows-11-su...

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/lightroom-masking-background-subject-an... 

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/masking-is-slow/m-p/14876218#M380139 

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/no-subject-detected/m-p/14944611#M38457... 

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/lightroom-classic-on-a-brand-new-pc-tur... 

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/people-not-recognized-afte-upgrade-to-v... 

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/lrc-13-3-problems-with-masks/m-p/146630... 

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/problemas-con-la-reducci%C3%B3n-de-ruid... 

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/lightroom-crashing-graphics-acceleratio... 

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/lightroom-classic-crashes-when-hitting-...

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/lr-13-0-1-crashes-very-often/m-p/142055... 

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/ai-denoise-tool-distorts-colors-amp-dar... 

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/gpu-accelleration-broken-in-lightroom-c... 

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/systemkompatibilit%C3%A4tsbericht-liefe... 

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/lrc-slamming-my-memory-and-glitching-ou... 

 

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 14, 2024 Nov 14, 2024

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The first thing I do when editing photos is to check if there is an updated graphics driver as well as Windows and Adobe updates.
So I always have the latest driver updates, it's really something different, as others say here.
I now avoid using masks, even though if they work they are really useful.

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 14, 2024 Sep 14, 2024

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ciao @DavePinMinn did you find some solution?

I have the same issue in camera raw.
but with Mac m1 max 32 GB RAM Until 2023  zero problem zero lag... 
Now in 2024 in Camera Raw when I apply the first 3 mask... on the same files I used before... it goes slow, very laggy.
the same in Photoshop is very laggy and i tried a lot of possible fixes but without positive results.

This is ashaming and sad.



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Enthusiast ,
Sep 16, 2024 Sep 16, 2024

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Unfortunately, I haven't found ANYTHING to help except to shut down Lightroom and restart.  On my system, things deteriorate quickly starting shortly after touching the first mask and getting worse from then on.

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 20, 2024 Sep 20, 2024

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It's not about Your PC, it's about bad coded software. Maybe try other one. I have the same problem and tried everything I could find but nothing helped.

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 20, 2024 Sep 20, 2024

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Sorta similar issue here with a new computer build.  Nvidia 4060Ti (8 GB), Intel i7-14700k.  Lightroom randomly crashes from develop mode, particularly when using masks, working out of a collection and jumping to a new file.  Also laggy (spinning wheel) in develop mode.  Thought it might be issues with the Intel chip, but I'm using default settings with no OC at all.  Turned off graphic acceleration and only had one crash in 2 days, vs. multiple crashes every time I edit, which has me thinking the GPU is the problem.  Already updated drivers and did everything else discussed above, but haven't found a fix yet.    

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Enthusiast ,
Sep 20, 2024 Sep 20, 2024

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Very different systems, but the SAME GPU...  4060 TI.  Interesting.

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 20, 2024 Sep 20, 2024

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my problem is same new build  Intel i9-14900k  Nvidia 4060 TI (8Gb) 32gb ram. when i click masking tools lag start and that time ram goes 23 to 25 gb. I have contacted Adobe customer support several times and it has not been resolved. I faced this problem 3 months ago, the problem still exists

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 21, 2024 Sep 21, 2024

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...but the SAME SW...  lightroom... because everything else works perfectly on my 4060Ti

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Enthusiast ,
Sep 22, 2024 Sep 22, 2024

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In theory it could specifically be the 4060 and/or 4060TI, which would be EXTREMELY aggravating.  But, it seems like it could also be the faster cards like the 4080 and 4090 but they're SO fast that users don't notice the massive amount of lag...

Either way, if correct, this SEEMS like something Adobe SHOULD give a <bleep> about...

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